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Help me optimize an awakened gelatinous cube
« on: October 13, 2009, 04:17:03 PM »
One of my friends is DEAD SET on making an awakened gelatinous cube for a campaign we are playing, he is using the savage species progression
(the electricity immunity should start full at first level but my DM wanted to make it start as electricity resistance and increase to full immunity at later levels

Build:

Gelatinous Cube 7/War hulk 10/barbarian 3

He is planning to use the monstrous feat such thunder clap from the SS

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Re: Help me optimize an awakened gelatinous cube
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2009, 08:26:20 PM »
Make the gelatinous cube in to a wizard and a fatespinner, and then paint a series of dots on each side of it.  :p

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Re: Help me optimize an awakened gelatinous cube
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2009, 08:47:00 PM »
the 7 hd, means you cant get lvl 9 maneuvers in 20, otherwise ToB would be assume. still might be.
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Re: Help me optimize an awakened gelatinous cube
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2009, 05:09:51 AM »
Where are you getting the SS progression for a gelatinous cube?
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Re: Help me optimize an awakened gelatinous cube
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2009, 06:06:38 PM »
Where are you getting the SS progression for a gelatinous cube?
Use a retraining quest to swap the racial HD for levels :P
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Re: Help me optimize an awakened gelatinous cube
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2009, 07:24:39 PM »
I say build toward a Slime Lord, from PGtF p 186.   :hmm
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Re: Help me optimize an awakened gelatinous cube
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2009, 09:48:54 AM »
Maximized awaken: 18 int, wis, cha (not sure if this is RAW but who cares, you're an ooze!).

What's the point buy? How would that work with limited stats? Anyway, put an 18 in con and the rest in Str. Dump dex, it cannot go below 1 after all.

Gelatinous cube has 4 HD, I assume you houseruled 3 LA. Ouch. You could buy it back at levels 13, 19, and 22.

Anyway, with 34 Con, I'd go for some Con synergy. Ideally something like cube 4/stoneblessed 3/deepwarden 2/fotf 1 to increase your AC from 4 to 33.

Meeting skills and feat requirements will probably be complicated, perhaps dip some ranger. The 18 int can help.

Oozes probably cannot wear much equipment, have you considered VoP? Nymph's Kiss would probably help too.

Strategy: increase con skyhigh, use cube's natural attacks and pump paralysis.

Feats: Extended reach, Ability Focus, Rapidstrike (ouch, needs 9 dex)...

Ask your DM if ranks in Hide/Move Silently can help improve your Transparent (Ex) quality.

I am not skilled with ToB, but can this help? Insightful Strike - Tome of Battle p62 3.5 - Concentration check instead of damage roll

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Re: Help me optimize an awakened gelatinous cube
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2009, 01:23:55 PM »
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Re: Help me optimize an awakened gelatinous cube
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2009, 05:33:55 PM »
Heeey, it's the slimy pendant to Drizz't do Urden. Fluff's right there! The Cube has abandoned the ways of its race and seeks acceptance among dwarven clans.

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Re: Help me optimize an awakened gelatinous cube
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2009, 06:08:47 PM »
The in-game process of having an sentinent piece of death-jelly accepted, aswells as welcomed as an honourary member of a race of stone would, if nothing else, be very interesting.

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Re: Help me optimize an awakened gelatinous cube
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2009, 07:30:16 PM »
Hmmm actually we had tough of maximizing CON, we are toying with the idea of the gelatinous cube engulfing all the mooks in an encounter and the caster (me) using a chain lighting inside the ooze

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Re: Help me optimize an awakened gelatinous cube
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2009, 10:34:48 PM »
If only fling ally could be worked into this... Either the cube throwing someone or someone throwing the cube...

Maybe Dragonfire adept so you could eventually get flying, since your speed is poor.  Not to mention an acid breath.
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Re: Help me optimize an awakened gelatinous cube
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2009, 11:05:17 PM »
In the Arms and Equipment Guide, there is an amulet that lets you ride in oozes...
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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Re: Help me optimize an awakened gelatinous cube
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2009, 11:25:15 PM »
While we are at it, what abilities are there which reward a high con? I know there is indomitable will (does having an int score cause an ooze to lose its immunity to mind-affecting abilities?).
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Re: Help me optimize an awakened gelatinous cube
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2009, 11:36:45 PM »
It is his character and his copy of SS so I am not sure why he want to maximize CON, but I am sure he is going to get that feat that lets you use your CON to modify the will saves, but basically I think he wants to have more HP than the rest of the party combined

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Re: Help me optimize an awakened gelatinous cube
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2009, 12:41:29 PM »
Absorb a ton of Chocolate and take two levels of monk.

Now you can produce a chocolate flurry.


But seriously, IUS is a must, then you can hit people with gobs of.... whatever.

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Re: Help me optimize an awakened gelatinous cube
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2009, 10:39:59 PM »
Nymph's Kiss? What the hell? Where are you going to find a fey willing to romance a cube?

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Re: Help me optimize an awakened gelatinous cube
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2009, 10:41:28 PM »
Nymph's Kiss? What the hell? Where are you going to find a fey willing to romance a cube?
Stick a Hat of Disguise on the cube.  :P
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Re: Help me optimize an awakened gelatinous cube
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2009, 10:42:32 PM »
Flavor is mutable, and...now that I checked I made a mistake in the OP, the cube is not for a campaing but for an arena tournament

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Re: Help me optimize an awakened gelatinous cube
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2009, 10:43:17 PM »
Nymph's Kiss? What the hell? Where are you going to find a fey willing to romance a cube?
Willing is a relative term. That paralyzing touch has more than one use, you know.
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