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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #700 on: November 08, 2009, 01:14:13 PM »
Q204 - Other than having someone else cast PaO, what is the earliest you can enter into Beholder Mage without relying on another person? MoMF seems to do it at level 7/8 which is the same as Druid more or less. I need to get into it by level 6 and have 500,000gp to make sure I do and it's a Gestalt level 15 campaign.
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Buy a scroll of it for 3k. Does that also count as 'relying on someone else'?

I am looking for another method, PaO will be my fall back if I can't find anything else. Should probably have mentioned we get +2LA for free or +4LA free if we scrap all our crafting experience.
How many HD do they have? Metamorphosis is only limited by manifester level. So it might be possible to get in earlier with an ardent/cerebremancer with bloodlines and Metamorphic Transfer.
A true Beholder has 11 HD.

EDIT: How the fuck did I not think of this? Use early entry with Divine Minion to get into MoMS by level 2.

Please elaborate or link sources so I can go look it up xD
Mulhorandi Divine Minion. Roughly halfway down on the page. Gives you wild shape (into a specific animal, but still wild shape) as a lvl 11 druid, at will, as a free action for +1 LA. I shit you not, but got ninja'd anyway.

So looking at this am I right to think that a Divine Minion(LA1) with Master of Many Forms 2 for large size wildshapes and Abberation Blood+Abberation Wildshape = Beholder at ECL3 and potentially Beholder Mage at ECL 4 :D?
Yes. The DM may require you to also take Assume Supernatural Ability to be able to put out the "antimagic eye" (in which case you'd have to take the feat at 3 and enter at ECL 5), though. Are flaws allowed?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #701 on: November 08, 2009, 01:24:59 PM »
Q204 - Other than having someone else cast PaO, what is the earliest you can enter into Beholder Mage without relying on another person? MoMF seems to do it at level 7/8 which is the same as Druid more or less. I need to get into it by level 6 and have 500,000gp to make sure I do and it's a Gestalt level 15 campaign.
A 204

Buy a scroll of it for 3k. Does that also count as 'relying on someone else'?

I am looking for another method, PaO will be my fall back if I can't find anything else. Should probably have mentioned we get +2LA for free or +4LA free if we scrap all our crafting experience.
How many HD do they have? Metamorphosis is only limited by manifester level. So it might be possible to get in earlier with an ardent/cerebremancer with bloodlines and Metamorphic Transfer.
A true Beholder has 11 HD.

EDIT: How the fuck did I not think of this? Use early entry with Divine Minion to get into MoMS by level 2.

Please elaborate or link sources so I can go look it up xD
Mulhorandi Divine Minion. Roughly halfway down on the page. Gives you wild shape (into a specific animal, but still wild shape) as a lvl 11 druid, at will, as a free action for +1 LA. I shit you not, but got ninja'd anyway.

So looking at this am I right to think that a Divine Minion(LA1) with Master of Many Forms 2 for large size wildshapes and Abberation Blood+Abberation Wildshape = Beholder at ECL3 and potentially Beholder Mage at ECL 4 :D?
Yes. The DM may require you to also take Assume Supernatural Ability to be able to put out the "antimagic eye" (in which case you'd have to take the feat at 3 and enter at ECL 5), though. Are flaws allowed?

Yes and I have enough gold to retrain a ton of magical locations too

Divine Minion(LA1 Boughtoff) / Master of Many Forms 2 / Beholder Mage 2 or 10 / Ur Priest 1 / Dual Progression 10 Maybe. Would be Double 9s at level 15 and that's good enough for me. I don't want to go too overboard because there's still the other half of my Gestalt to figure out lol.

I will make a thread for it now I have all the info I know, sorry for derailing thread a bit with my lengthy questioning.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2009, 01:31:16 PM by Takanaki »

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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #702 on: November 08, 2009, 02:04:18 PM »
Q205 Is a panther a good animal for an natural lycanthrope? (Gestalf the other side will be a swift hunter)

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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #703 on: November 08, 2009, 03:26:51 PM »
A205 I don't see why not, but I always liked a Fleshraker myself. Cheetah is nice for speed, most of the animals you can pick have some kind of redeeming feature.

Q206 What is a good +0/+1LA race/template I can apply to myself +stats. It can be more than one template but the LA cannot be more than 1 in total. Preferably aiming to get a higher amount of + than -

Most preferred stat is Int or any mental stat. Con/Dex is also useful but Str can take a walk. Also I am not undead, so undead templates are out.

Firesouled / Lloth Touched / Dragonborn templates have been looked at so far as good ones, but Lloth and Dragonborn would conflict with my religion and don't increase mental stats.

Races so far nothing outstanding that i've found besides Death Touched, +1LA -2con +2 wis +4cha.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #704 on: November 08, 2009, 03:28:45 PM »
Q 207: If one could get Silent Image as an Supernatural Ability, and meet the pre-reqs for Shadowcraft Mage, would one be able to use that Supernatural Ability for that class' Shadow Illusion?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #705 on: November 08, 2009, 03:51:08 PM »
Q206 What is a good +0/+1LA race/template I can apply to myself +stats. It can be more than one template but the LA cannot be more than 1 in total. Preferably aiming to get a higher amount of + than -
A Primordial Giant Half-Giant would be +1 LA with -2 Str, -2 Dex, +4 Int, +4 Cha and the ability to use Invisibility (or See invisibility, or Levitate) at will as a spell-like ability at caster level 1.

Primordial Giant is from Secrets of Xen'drik.

You could pull something similar off with a Primordial Giant Eneko (Secrets of Sarlona) which would, IIRC, have stats of -2 Str, -2 Dex, +4 Int, +2 Cha, but would have Darkvision, and could use Endure Elements and Pass without Trace each once per day as spell-like abilities, in addition to the one gained from Primordial Giant.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #706 on: November 08, 2009, 03:54:58 PM »
Actually Primordial Giant doesn't touch LA, but the lowest LA on any Giant I know of is +1 (Half Giant).

Reread your answer and I'm an idiot, can someone delete this or report it?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #707 on: November 08, 2009, 05:01:29 PM »
Q208 - Academic Priest, saw it in a guide, supposedly makes Int a primary stat for spellcasting or something but I can't find it on google or feat lists. Is the name slightly wrong o.o?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #708 on: November 08, 2009, 06:39:42 PM »
Q208 - Academic Priest, saw it in a guide, supposedly makes Int a primary stat for spellcasting or something but I can't find it on google or feat lists. Is the name slightly wrong o.o?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #709 on: November 08, 2009, 07:00:23 PM »
Thanks a lot

Q209 Does anywhere still have a compilation of all the magical locations? wizards board purged the old one >_>

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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #710 on: November 08, 2009, 11:03:50 PM »
Q 210: Is there any way other then inspire greatness to gain temporary HD?
(Its a sublime chord build and I only have room for 5 bard levels)

Thanks in advance
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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #711 on: November 08, 2009, 11:28:55 PM »
Q 210: Is there any way other then inspire greatness to gain temporary HD?
(Its a sublime chord build and I only have room for 5 bard levels)

Thanks in advance
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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #712 on: November 08, 2009, 11:37:47 PM »
Q 210: Is there any way other then inspire greatness to gain temporary HD?
(Its a sublime chord build and I only have room for 5 bard levels)

Thanks in advance
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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #713 on: November 08, 2009, 11:41:31 PM »
Q211: Question suddenly arose; are there any medium or larger dragons that have an ECL of 9 or less, and if so, where?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #714 on: November 08, 2009, 11:45:02 PM »
Q 210: Is there any way other then inspire greatness to gain temporary HD?
(Its a sublime chord build and I only have room for 5 bard levels)

Thanks in advance
Shapechange into a barghest. :D
Polymorph into a dusk giant (Heroes of Horror) and chow down.

Perhaps I should explain a bit more, the character is for a series of duals, he is level 17: bard5 / spellthief 1/ lyric thermatige 9 / sublime chord 2 (house ruled that LT progresses SC) and I want to combine Song of Arcane Power with Draconic polymorph, but require some HD to supplement the caster level (in other words; not enough stuff to eat :()

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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #715 on: November 09, 2009, 12:11:14 AM »
Q211: Question suddenly arose; are there any medium or larger dragons that have an ECL of 9 or less, and if so, where?

A211
Ambush Drake Savage Progression. 7 HD, no LA, but it's weird in that the base creature has LA -. So apparently you must take the savage progression? It's at the bottom of the page.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #716 on: November 09, 2009, 12:13:31 AM »
Q211: Question suddenly arose; are there any medium or larger dragons that have an ECL of 9 or less, and if so, where?

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Ambush Drake Savage Progression. 7 HD, no LA, but it's weird in that the base creature has LA -. So apparently you must take the savage progression? It's at the bottom of the page.

It's debated whether the savage progression is legal for PCs or only available for NPCs.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #717 on: November 09, 2009, 12:16:29 AM »
Q211: Question suddenly arose; are there any medium or larger dragons that have an ECL of 9 or less, and if so, where?
A211
Ambush Drake Savage Progression. 7 HD, no LA, but it's weird in that the base creature has LA -. So apparently you must take the savage progression? It's at the bottom of the page.
It's debated whether the savage progression is legal for PCs or only available for NPCs.
The DM's ruled out savage progression, unfortunately.  And to clarify, I'm looking for a true dragon, rather than any playable creature with the dragon type.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #718 on: November 09, 2009, 12:57:05 AM »
Q211: Question suddenly arose; are there any medium or larger dragons that have an ECL of 9 or less, and if so, where?
A211
Ambush Drake Savage Progression. 7 HD, no LA, but it's weird in that the base creature has LA -. So apparently you must take the savage progression? It's at the bottom of the page.
It's debated whether the savage progression is legal for PCs or only available for NPCs.
The DM's ruled out savage progression, unfortunately.  And to clarify, I'm looking for a true dragon, rather than any playable creature with the dragon type.

Wyrmlings? I think the Steel one was 4 HD and a +2 LA. Not sure where it is, though.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question; Get a Simple Answer. Version 5.0
« Reply #719 on: November 09, 2009, 01:07:49 AM »
Q211: Question suddenly arose; are there any medium or larger dragons that have an ECL of 9 or less, and if so, where?
Half-minotaur Dragonwrought kobold? Seriously though, for true dragons, there seems to be no ECL 9 medium ones