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Handy links 4e: Map to the new world of minmaxing
« on: June 05, 2008, 05:47:33 PM »
Last update: 21st of August.

Good day everyone, I am here to keep things organized. So far I haven't decided on the format, but I try to make it something like the previous Handy links. Any suggestions are more than welcome and do post any threads you think should be collected here. That's the best way to get my attention, so work with me, so we can make this a decent compilation.

I nicked the concept of this thread from Surreal whose version can be found here: Click for Handy Links/4e Handy Links.

For those new to the concept of Handy Links, this is the library you should use when you search for material. As  shown by the ancestors of this thread, this will eventually be filled with links to whatever things we find useful: handbooks to different classes, guides for certain type of builds and possibly even some iconic creations of this board. All in all, for most purposes, this is the 4e optimization library.

Index

1st post: Class and theme handbooks and building guides, CO/DM diaries

2nd post: Utilitarian and informative threads, users' personal build compendium, non-optimizational banter

3rd post: Discussion on new material, threads dealing with other forums

4th post: Reserved for later use

Class and theme handbooks and building guides
Artificer:
-The artificer (or at least the playtest beta) is out! A whole new class! by Adslahnit.
Cleric:
-The Zap: Shooting People in the Face with Lasers by Mister_Sinister.
Paladin:
-The Path to Righteousness: X-Codes' Guide to Paladins in 4e by X-Codes.
Wizard:
-A Brace of Wands - Extending Wizard Endurance by Squirrelloid.
-The Handyman - aka When to play a Staff Mage by Squirrelloid.
-The Wizard's Handbook by Squirrelloid.
-Treantmonk's guide to Wizards: God 4e style by TreantMonklvl20.


CO/DM diaries

MittenNinja: [DM Diary] KotS
Todd: Eladrin Wizard in small scale game
« Last Edit: August 26, 2008, 10:36:20 AM by Tshern »
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Re: Handy links 4e: Map to the new world of minmaxing
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2008, 05:47:54 PM »
« Last Edit: August 14, 2008, 09:57:51 PM by Tshern »
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Re: Handy links 4e: Map to the new world of minmaxing
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2008, 05:48:22 PM »
Discussions on new material

Threads dealing with other forums

-4e Wizard Handbook and other handy links by Squirrelloid. Link goes to WotC.
-Kenshiro Cascadero "Rattata" Orcuslayer, Level 30. Link goes to CO wiki.
-Monsters - Lots of statistics from the Monster Manual by kerbarian. Link goes EN World.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2008, 09:31:18 PM by Tshern »
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Re: Handy links 4e: Map to the new world of minmaxing
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2008, 05:49:04 PM »
Reserved3

Feel free to post now. Throw me links, give feedback, anything.

Edit: I'll add the first links in a second. Need to get a refreshing cup of coffee first.
Edit 2: Please post your opinions about categorizing the threads! As such we do not have too many handbooks yet, but I think they deserve a place of their own. What else?
« Last Edit: June 05, 2008, 06:22:22 PM by Tshern »
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Re: Handy links 4e: Map to the new world of minmaxing
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2008, 07:39:38 PM »
As a matter of fact, I'll reserve a single post more. Don't smite me for this.
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Re: Handy links 4e: Map to the new world of minmaxing
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2008, 08:12:02 PM »
Thanks for both links, but Surreal already has a Dex at WotC, so I try to keep this pretty much WotC exclusive with the exceptions of threads like that of Squirreloid's. I am certain Surreal will add TM's guide, at least it seemed like a great source to me. I'll add the Orcus slayer one.

As a sidenote, I so totally need to read the core books next week. Kind of annoying that regardless of having them for days now, I haven't had the energy to go through them. Reading 4e threads is like learning a new language to me...
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Re: Handy links 4e: Map to the new world of minmaxing
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2008, 08:18:02 PM »
Yeah, 4e is a Big Pain in the ass, but have you ever played WoW?
If you have just think of it like DnD WoW.
Prepare for Flames i know
DnD+WoW sin on my part right. I think not.
Every New class has a Exact WoW counterpart.
Well side the Warlord But he is just a Civilized Shaman.
It sad
DnD4e=RPGWoW.

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Re: Handy links 4e: Map to the new world of minmaxing
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2008, 08:38:05 PM »
I've watched for maybe 10 minutes. Bored the everliving snot out of me. However, I have heard arguments against 4e being like WoW from people who are more experienced than I am on both accounts, but this is NOT, I repeat, this is NOT, the thread to discuss their similarities and I reserve a right to smite anyone who brings the debate here.
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Re: Handy links 4e: Map to the new world of minmaxing
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2008, 03:19:55 AM »
I can try to port the Wizard Handbook over to BG, but I have a feeling the more restrictive post size limit will make it painful.  Is there interest in me doing so?  (After I actually finish the darn thing, of course).
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Re: Handy links 4e: Map to the new world of minmaxing
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2008, 05:56:32 PM »
I can only speak for myself, but yes.
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Re: Handy links 4e: Map to the new world of minmaxing
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2008, 06:19:23 PM »
I can try to port the Wizard Handbook over to BG, but I have a feeling the more restrictive post size limit will make it painful.  Is there interest in me doing so?  (After I actually finish the darn thing, of course).

Please do. Also, the characters limit has been upped to almost as much as "that other board i won't mention".
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Re: Handy links 4e: Map to the new world of minmaxing
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2008, 10:51:06 PM »
Added TM20's new GOD handbook. Even if this is not too much of an achievement, but congrats! Your guide is the first 4e one here.
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Re: Handy links 4e: Map to the new world of minmaxing
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2008, 10:23:08 PM »
Excellent, I added that one in. Thanks for your activity in this thread, I appreciate. all the help I can get.
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Re: Handy links 4e: Map to the new world of minmaxing
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2008, 11:34:09 PM »
Wizard Handbook completely transferred, barring some markup problems - i think mostly i have to remove quotes from all the colors, but I'm not sure I can actually use all the same colors
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Re: Handy links 4e: Map to the new world of minmaxing
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2008, 02:07:41 PM »
Kenshiro Cascadero "Rattata" Orcuslayer, Level 30. Link goes to  CO wiki.

Uh, as the guy who made that page (you can check in the page history if you want proof), let me clear up some things. Firstly, all credit for discovering the potential of Blade Cascade should go to the WotC 4.0 CharOp board, in particular, HagiaSophia from over there. Secondly, the actual build and fine details were sorted out by a DIFFERENT board (which shall remain anonymous for now, if you catch my drift), which then put up the build on a wiki that had connections to certain people on the aforementioned board. So it's not a CO wiki at all.

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Re: Handy links 4e: Map to the new world of minmaxing
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2008, 09:35:55 PM »
Uh, as the guy who made that page (you can check in the page history if you want proof), let me clear up some things. Firstly, all credit for discovering the potential of Blade Cascade should go to the WotC 4.0 CharOp board, in particular, HagiaSophia from over there.

Not that it matters overmuch, but I'll claim credit for "discovering" Blade Cascade. I posted not just the power, but full build two days before HagiaSophia: Compare http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=227936&page=1&pp=15 to http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1038543. :)


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Re: Handy links 4e: Map to the new world of minmaxing
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2008, 10:26:34 PM »
(which shall remain anonymous for now, if you catch my drift)
I'm pretty sure everyone knows which board you're talking about Touhoufag.

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Re: Handy links 4e: Map to the new world of minmaxing
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2008, 12:59:11 PM »
"Heroes By Numbers" Seams to deserve a place here, its lots of math for DnD4e
http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=619.0

X-codes guide to Paladins
http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=630.0

All Possible Point buy-ins
http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=538.0

Squirreloids Wizard handbook (This one is on BG not Gleemax)
http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=631.0

I think this is all the Stuff that is not just build help,
Though I may have missed something, so if i did sorry.
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