Statting Nanoha

[veekie]

How would you handle what Fate's doing in my avvie?

[Prime32]

How would you handle what Fate's doing in my avvie?

Fighting defensively?

Also, I found this. Uuurgh... Zafira's voice cracks me up for some reason though.

[Agita]

How would you handle what Fate's doing in my avvie?

Martial Study (Wall of Blades)? That only deals with a single attack, though.

[veekie]

Additional Note, as of Sound Stage X, Teana has learned Starlight Breaker, though she burns through an alarming amount of cartridges to shoot it at all.

[Agita]

A thought: Yuuno=Hengeyokai?

[veekie]

Hmm, hes just got the Alternate Form(Ferret) power...

[Prime32]

Made some minor updates to the thread.

[Agita]

Still no build for Erio? Maybe I'll have mercy and throw something Swiftblade-esque together.

[Prime32]

Still no build for Erio? Maybe I'll have mercy and throw something Swiftblade-esque together.

I was thinking more Swift Hunter. It's just that the guy is so incredibly bland. I have vids in the first post for reference now.

Could Teana be built as a warlock/beguiler/eldritch theurge?

[veekie]

Hmm, hes really more of Caro's cohort really, since hes the ideal way to demo her buff spells.
Basic ubercharging build, with some electric attacks...a lance based duskblade? With Strada being the electric union of a magic broomstick and a lance.

Ability wise, is charges(hits hard, does not end well for him since he has no follow through), hit and runs(doesn't generally leave a mark), Thunder Rage, a lightning augmented melee attack, which can be delivered via spear or fist, as well as an electric version of Shatter, which he used on the poor helpless bridge. Probably Power Attack to make use of Caro's buffs to-hit.

[Prime32]

Duskblade sounds pretty good actually, though to keep the theme he's supposed to be a divine caster. Whatever, I already made Caro divine instead of arcane, and Nanoha's a psion. (combine her build with the houserules I linked to in the first post and you can get a 375ft-long Starlight Breaker, or a 480ft-long Divine Buster Extension)

[Agita]

Just give him Southern Spellcaster and be done with it.

[veekie]

Well, Modern Belka is a bit more arcane than Old Belka, but hell, whatever works.

[Senevri]

Just found this thread. Pretty good analysis all around. However, I find the flavor a bit odd, when using psi to represent magic.
Psionics are so flexible, you can build almost anything with them. It's almost cheating.

Here's my (somewhat older) take on Nanoha:
[spoiler]Bard 5/Lyric Thaumaturge 5/Sublime Chord 2/Loremaster 8

Bard slots:
3/4/4/3/1
Extra Sor/Wis spell on 1st and 2nd.

Sublime Chord slots:
-/-/-/-/5/4/4/3/3/2

Bonus Spells:0/2/2/1/1/1/1
W/+6:0/3/2/2/2/2/1/1/1/1

Loremaster: 0/1/1

Familiar bonus Slot: 7th

Feats: (two flaws, although...)
1, Melodic Casting, Sacred Vow ,Widen Spell Somatic Weaponry
3 Subdual/Nonlethal Substitution
6 Vow of Nonviolence
9 Item Familiar
10 Item Familiar:Increased Sapience (49k GP)
12 Skill Focus(Knowledge:Arcana), get a permanent +4 Int booster item.
14 Item Familiar:Spell Use OR At Will Detect Magic
15 Sculpt Spell
17 Loremaster Secret bonus feat: ( Arcane Thesis Sonic Rumble, Heighten, Sudden Maximize? )
18 Versatile Spellcaster, Item Familiar:Cantrips/Orisons

Spell Choices:
Bard:
6/4+1/4+1/4/2
0: Dancing Lights, Detect Magic, Light, Mending, Message, Read Magic
1: Expeditious Retreat, Feather Fall, Improvisation, Beastland Ferocity, Guided Shot or Nerveskitter
2: Locate Object, Sonorous Hum, Know Vulnerabilities, _, Heroics
3: Haste, Know Opponent, Speechlink, _
4: Voice of the Dragon, Freedom of Movement

SC:
-/-/-/-/4/4/4/4/3/2
4: Resilient Sphere->Assay SR, Ruin Delver's Fortune, Resonating Bolt, Solid Fog
5: Overland Flight, Dimension Jumper, Sonic Rumble, Prying Eyes
6: Shout, Greater, Imbue Familiar, True Seeing, Greater Dispel
7: Spell Matrix, Radiant Assault, Spell Turning, Plane Shift or Teleport, Greater
8: Moment of Prescience, Dimensional Lock, TK Sphere
9: Absorption, ( Time Stop/Foresight/Disjunction/something )
[/spoiler]
(Could also be done with, say, Evoker, but this one can diplomancy during combat).
Basic idea is using Sacred Vow + Vow of Nonviolence + Subdual Substitution + Spell Focus (good) + Somatic Weaponry.

Raising Heart was tricky, especially considering WBL, but something like an Item Familiar Ioun Stone acting as a Rod of Arming, containing a Wand Chamber'd Staff. Combine with Metamagic Spell Trigger, for a decent cartridge system.

Consider the spells Resonating Bolt and Sonic Rumble. One is a 10d4 60ft line, the other is a 10d6 line.
The first deals full damage to objects, and if it destroys the object, continues at full power.
The second, has a duration of Concentration, meaning that with Sonorous Hum, you could have two running consecutively, up to CL rounds. So, at level 10, this deals 100d6 damage, already.
Now, I picked flavor feats instead of picking lots of metamagics, so it's not that optimized for damage.

[Prime32]

Just found this thread. Pretty good analysis all around. However, I find the flavor a bit odd, when using psi to represent magic.
Psionics are so flexible, you can build almost anything with them. It's almost cheating.

Here's my (somewhat older) take on Nanoha:
[spoiler]Bard 5/Lyric Thaumaturge 5/Sublime Chord 2/Loremaster 8

Bard slots:
3/4/4/3/1
Extra Sor/Wis spell on 1st and 2nd.

Sublime Chord slots:
-/-/-/-/5/4/4/3/3/2

Bonus Spells:0/2/2/1/1/1/1
W/+6:0/3/2/2/2/2/1/1/1/1

Loremaster: 0/1/1

Familiar bonus Slot: 7th

Feats: (two flaws, although...)
1, Melodic Casting, Sacred Vow ,Widen Spell Somatic Weaponry
3 Subdual/Nonlethal Substitution
6 Vow of Nonviolence
9 Item Familiar
10 Item Familiar:Increased Sapience (49k GP)
12 Skill Focus(Knowledge:Arcana), get a permanent +4 Int booster item.
14 Item Familiar:Spell Use OR At Will Detect Magic
15 Sculpt Spell
17 Loremaster Secret bonus feat: ( Arcane Thesis Sonic Rumble, Heighten, Sudden Maximize? )
18 Versatile Spellcaster, Item Familiar:Cantrips/Orisons

Spell Choices:
Bard:
6/4+1/4+1/4/2
0: Dancing Lights, Detect Magic, Light, Mending, Message, Read Magic
1: Expeditious Retreat, Feather Fall, Improvisation, Beastland Ferocity, Guided Shot or Nerveskitter
2: Locate Object, Sonorous Hum, Know Vulnerabilities, _, Heroics
3: Haste, Know Opponent, Speechlink, _
4: Voice of the Dragon, Freedom of Movement

SC:
-/-/-/-/4/4/4/4/3/2
4: Resilient Sphere->Assay SR, Ruin Delver's Fortune, Resonating Bolt, Solid Fog
5: Overland Flight, Dimension Jumper, Sonic Rumble, Prying Eyes
6: Shout, Greater, Imbue Familiar, True Seeing, Greater Dispel
7: Spell Matrix, Radiant Assault, Spell Turning, Plane Shift or Teleport, Greater
8: Moment of Prescience, Dimensional Lock, TK Sphere
9: Absorption, ( Time Stop/Foresight/Disjunction/something )
[/spoiler]
(Could also be done with, say, Evoker, but this one can diplomancy during combat).
Basic idea is using Sacred Vow + Vow of Nonviolence + Subdual Substitution + Spell Focus (good) + Somatic Weaponry.

Raising Heart was tricky, especially considering WBL, but something like an Item Familiar Ioun Stone acting as a Rod of Arming, containing a Wand Chamber'd Staff. Combine with Metamagic Spell Trigger, for a decent cartridge system.

Consider the spells Resonating Bolt and Sonic Rumble. One is a 10d4 60ft line, the other is a 10d6 line.
The first deals full damage to objects, and if it destroys the object, continues at full power.
The second, has a duration of Concentration, meaning that with Sonorous Hum, you could have two running consecutively, up to CL rounds. So, at level 10, this deals 100d6 damage, already.
Now, I picked flavor feats instead of picking lots of metamagics, so it's not that optimized for damage.

New Skill Trick: Befriending With Maximum Firepower
If you rush a Diplomacy check (ie. perform one as a full-round action at a -10 penalty) then knock out the target of your check within 1 minute, you may immediately reroll the check without the penalty.

 

[Senevri]

I like it. Besides, isn't there a D&D ruling where someone knocked unconscious always counts as "willing"...

[Prime32]

Added some more feats to Teana's build.

That eldritch theurge still might be better though.


EDIT: Work in progress

Erio
Halfling psionic duskblade 18
Feats: Expanded Knowledge (psionic lion's charge), Overchannel, Power Attack, Leap Attack
Traits: Quick
Equipment: Strada (+1 psychokinetic shocking burst valorous lance/wings of flying)

Sonic Move:
Luftmesser: Energy ray
Speerschneiden:
Speerangriff:
Stahlmesser:
Messerangriff:
Thunder Rage:


That's right, Erio's using homebrew.

[Risada]

Erio
Halfling psionic duskblade 18

 

Someone is using my stuff! Nice! 

[veekie]

Well, something still has to be done about his unfortunate tendency to be pwned except when acting as Caro's second familiar(i.e. buffed to the gills for one massive hit)

[Prime32]

Well, something still has to be done about his unfortunate tendency to be pwned except when acting as Caro's second familiar(i.e. buffed to the gills for one massive hit)

Quick trait?