Author Topic: Character Discussion (Read 20022 times)

Agita · « **Reply #100 on:** July 18, 2009, 06:36:14 AM »

Quote from: BowenSilverclaw on July 18, 2009, 06:17:53 AM

Any thougths about me going the Wintertouched/Lasting Frost route as well? Is it worth it for a melee ranger? (I should be able to squeeze it in by level 14)

I don't know. Melee rangers generally have an easier time getting CA than archers due to flanking (though maybe not so much if you're going to be soloing a lot), the the Lasting Frost combo is mostly recommended for archers. Reckless or Bloodclaw on your weapon might actually do more damage, let me run some numbers. Note that Reckless and Bloodclaw scale, unlike Lasting Frost.

Assuming a base 50/50 chance to hit (and 1/20 chance to crit) for simplicity's sake, as I have no idea of the average AC for monsters at level 12.

At-will DPR with Twin Strike, no CA, Reckless weapon, Called Shot:
0.45 chance to hit, 0.05 chance to crit
Damage on hit: 1d10+18, average 23.5.
Damage on Crit: 3d8+28, average 43.5.
Average DPR: 2*(0.45*23.5+0.05*43.5)=25.5

At-will DPR with Twin Strike, CA, Cold Vulnerability, Called Shot:
0.55 chance to hit, 0.05 chance to crit
Damage on hit: 1d10+12, average 22.5
Damage on crit: 3d6+22, average 37.5
Average DPR: 2*(0.55*17.5+0.05*32.5)=28.5

So at this level, the Lasting Frost route would deal more damage. Of course, this is a purely theoretical numbers exercise (you won't be getting cold vulnerability on your first attack against any given monster, nor will you never get CA without a frost weapon). As I said, the cold vulnerability from Lasting Frost also doesn't scale whereas Reckless does.
Think of it as a physics exercise - assuming ideal conditions because it would be too hard to calculate otherwise, even though those ideal conditions will never come up.

BowenSilverclaw · « **Reply #101 on:** July 18, 2009, 06:38:20 AM »

I was thinking about eventually switching to dual Bastard Swords when I have enough money for two weapons, so by then I could just go with a Reckless weapon and a Frost weapon, right?

EDIT: And I don't think I'll be flanking that much...

Agita · « **Reply #102 on:** July 18, 2009, 06:47:22 AM »

Quote from: BowenSilverclaw on July 18, 2009, 06:38:20 AM

I was thinking about eventually switching to dual Bastard Swords when I have enough money for two weapons, so by then I could just go with a Reckless weapon and a Frost weapon, right?

EDIT: And I don't think I'll be flanking that much...

Yeah, you could.

BowenSilverclaw · « **Reply #103 on:** July 18, 2009, 04:20:56 PM »

I'll stick to the Double Sword for now, and by level 14 I'll decide whether or not I'll switch to Wintertouched/Lasting Frost and dual Bastard Swords.

Now to get the background and fluff completed

Agita · « **Reply #104 on:** July 18, 2009, 06:24:27 PM »

Yay, background's done. Made using, like AlterFrom, The_Stray's Ten-Minute Background for a change.

BowenSilverclaw · « **Reply #105 on:** July 18, 2009, 06:30:46 PM »

Ooh, I'll have to look into that link. Thanks

My background should be up somewhere tomorrow.

Rufei · « **Reply #106 on:** July 19, 2009, 02:16:07 AM »

Currently at Otakon (and posting from a hotel). I like how you guys are beginning to settle into your characters.

I don't quite have the energy to review anything quite yet, so I can't begin work until about Monday.

If people need an extension, please say so. I'd prefer to get a couple of days to work things out before starting the campaign, but at the same time, people probably want to play ASAP. So it's up to you all, really. The current deadline still stands.

VennDygrem · « **Reply #107 on:** July 19, 2009, 03:52:20 AM »

Here's my thought: Rufei wants to start us in the midst of battle, if memory serves. However, he also wants a couple extra days, and we've got people new to 4E. Most of us are at least new to it on PbP.

My question: Should we run a quick skirmish, or similar non-official game thing? This would allow people to try out some of their powers, get the hang of how their characters play, and how 4E handles. It wouldn't count toward anything except for getting acquainted with things; We'd get to play ASAP, while Rufei gets to do a little more preparation and recuperation post-Otakon (I remember how that goes. Years ago, now, but I remember nonetheless). Someone can toss together an extremely quick encounter with random enemies, and we just need someone to dictate the creatures' actions.

Any thoughts?

BowenSilverclaw · « **Reply #108 on:** July 19, 2009, 01:20:43 PM »

While I don't think it's a bad idea, I'm afraid it'll take quite some time before someone gets the encounter prepped and before we actually finish it, seeing as PbP's can take quite some time...

Assuming Rufei's first planned encounter isn't something like a dragon or something else that'll leave us horribly outgunned and/or outnumbered I think I'll have to vote for starting the actual campaign on tuesday, as originally planned.

Rufei · « **Reply #109 on:** July 19, 2009, 08:25:23 PM »

That's the rationale for starting in the midst of battle, although in actuality you start before the battle (this is basically before your surprise round, if you so manage to gain one).

Also, dragons are rather mild. Thankfully they're truthful to the XP tables.

BowenSilverclaw · « **Reply #110 on:** July 20, 2009, 06:38:46 AM »

Well, I'm ready to roll

BowenSilverclaw · « **Reply #111 on:** July 20, 2009, 10:42:54 AM »

Dither, how's your character coming along?

In case you hadn't found it yet, this might be of some help:
http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1055055

Rufei · « **Reply #112 on:** July 21, 2009, 03:01:25 PM »

Alright, there won't be any new entrants to this PbP. I will allow retraining, so if you feel unhappy about your build, you can change it later on.

Game thread later tonight. (When I'm not at work.)

BowenSilverclaw · « **Reply #113 on:** July 21, 2009, 03:41:48 PM »

With a little luck I should still be online by then. If now, I'll post tomorrow.

(currently 7:41 pm over here)

VennDygrem · « **Reply #114 on:** July 21, 2009, 04:00:44 PM »

I'll probably be around to post around 10pm EST or so, then. Looking forward to this.

Rufei · « **Reply #115 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:39:56 AM »

Dither, do you need more time for your character? I don't quite need bios and RP information just yet, but I do need working mechanics so that we can enter combat soon.

Sorry about the lateness - I took a slight nap, which turned out to be 4 hours long. Thank you, Otakon.

VennDygrem · « **Reply #116 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:48:55 AM »

Ah, I remember those days. Long gone now, it seems, haha.

Anyway, hope we can get this going soon. All my other PbP games are undergoing a bit of a dry spell as of late.

Does anyone have any last-minute comments or suggestions for my artificer build?

dither · « **Reply #117 on:** July 22, 2009, 05:23:34 PM »

Quote from: Rufei on July 22, 2009, 02:39:56 AM

Dither, do you need more time for your character? I don't quite need bios and RP information just yet, but I do need working mechanics so that we can enter combat soon.

Well, it looks kind of pathetic at the moment, but I'll continue working on my character as we go. I've picked the important stuff already; race, class, skills, powers, and feats. Now I just have to wrestle with equipment.

I also decided on the name Karito, no last name given.

BowenSilverclaw · « **Reply #118 on:** July 22, 2009, 05:27:17 PM »

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=138623

dither · « **Reply #119 on:** July 23, 2009, 01:03:20 PM »

Is there an obvious page I'm missing that tells me how much money I'm supposed to be able to spend as a 12th-level character?

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