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Durable armour enhancement
« on: June 28, 2009, 03:13:28 PM »
    I was looking at Dungeonscape today and reread the Durable armour enhancement. It grants 100% protection from acid and rusting magic. How would this work on a Warforged? I'd let it grant rust protection. Rusting isn't that common and I don't think immunity would be a game breaker. But how would it work for acid? Maybe a resistance of 10?

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Re: Durable armour enhancement
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2009, 10:01:19 PM »
I'd say immunity to acid, otherwise give it 20. If you look at half dragons, they have resistance 10, 20, and then immunity to whatever their breath weapon is. If the enhancement grants 100% protection, then I'd probably give them the complete immunity then. Just depends on how expensive it is. You could probably make this into an item itself, or give it levels so that it grants 10, then 20, then 100%.
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Re: Durable armour enhancement
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2009, 01:42:35 PM »
Given the AC bonus of the built in armor(comparing that to regular armors you get an idea of the coverage), I'd say it doesn't cover enough of the warforged to give immunity or even Resist 30. Resist 10 should be it.
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Re: Durable armour enhancement
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2009, 07:58:53 PM »
You should also take the price in account, like Kevin_Video said. If you grant them less protection, reduce the cost.

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Re: Durable armour enhancement
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2009, 02:42:46 AM »
Note, the enchantment specifically protects your armor, and only your armor from acid and rust. By that rationale, allowing it to grant any protection at all, you have to raise the cost.
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Re: Durable armour enhancement
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2009, 07:47:59 AM »
Note, the enchantment specifically protects your armor, and only your armor from acid and rust. By that rationale, allowing it to grant any protection at all, you have to raise the cost.
Ah, that changes the the premise, ofcourse.

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Re: Durable armour enhancement
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2009, 12:27:11 PM »
It also opens up that can of worms containing the "but my armor is my skin. So if my armor is protected, aren't I protected?" argument.

And this is why I'm glad my players don't open up dungeonscape. That, and they'd all be clamoring for Acid-breathing enemies to fight.
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Re: Durable armour enhancement
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2009, 02:28:25 PM »
It also opens up that can of worms containing the "but my armor is my skin. So if my armor is protected, aren't I protected?" argument.

And this is why I'm glad my players don't open up dungeonscape. That, and they'd all be clamoring for Acid-breathing enemies to fight.

Well, at least you control the latter issue.

But if the warforged plating is treated as armour sometimes, it should be treated as armour all the time.

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Re: Durable armour enhancement
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2009, 03:32:30 AM »
Remember, Warforged aren't completely covered by their armor.  Some acid would hit the weird brown parts between.  I'd say don't go full immunity to acid.

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Re: Durable armour enhancement
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2009, 06:32:00 PM »
Remember, Warforged aren't completely covered by their armor.  Some acid would hit the weird brown parts between.  I'd say don't go full immunity to acid.

I think that part of the warforged is wood. Which was probably used to keep them from being extremely heavy as they would be if they are made of pure metal.

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Re: Durable armour enhancement
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2009, 12:59:14 PM »
Remember, Warforged aren't completely covered by their armor.  Some acid would hit the weird brown parts between.  I'd say don't go full immunity to acid.

I think that part of the warforged is wood. Which was probably used to keep them from being extremely heavy as they would be if they are made of pure metal.

I believe they are described as being made of wood, metal and having metallic components, most importantly their armour plating.

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Re: Durable armour enhancement
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2009, 03:01:52 PM »
Remember, Warforged aren't completely covered by their armor.  Some acid would hit the weird brown parts between.  I'd say don't go full immunity to acid.

I think that part of the warforged is wood. Which was probably used to keep them from being extremely heavy as they would be if they are made of pure metal.

I believe they are described as being made of wood, metal and having metallic components, most importantly their armour plating.
Yes that is correct. What I am trying to say is that the "weird brown parts" described are likely the wooden components.

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Re: Durable armour enhancement
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2009, 07:58:56 PM »
I thought it was wood, but I didn't have a book around to confirm it.

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Re: Durable armour enhancement
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2009, 02:38:32 PM »
It's actually chocolate.

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Re: Durable armour enhancement
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2009, 02:55:08 PM »
It's actually chocolate.

But don't tell anyone.

That would create interesting structural problems to say the least. But it would explain why animals and other carnivorous creatures would attack a warforged even though they are otherwise inedible, as everyone likes chocolate.