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Re: Polymorph on an Artificer
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2009, 03:20:31 PM »
Too expensive, if priced properly.  One thing people tend to forget is that the charts are a SECONDARY rule for creating items; the primary rule is to price the item according to power.

Right, which is why you should use the magic trap crafting rules, which don't include that pesky disclaimer  :smirk

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Re: Polymorph on an Artificer
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2009, 03:27:11 PM »
that is and will be retarded lol

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Re: Polymorph on an Artificer
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2009, 03:31:20 PM »
Btw random thought, craft rune circle (anything awesome) on a slab of iron, shrink item, put in pocket. Unshrink, eat cheese, and enjoy the Portable medlab(with vigor circle).

Just though I'd point out that Rune Circles in Races of Stone rather specifically state that the circles can't be mobile, since their magic is fluffily connected to wherever they're situated, but that's another conversation.
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Re: Polymorph on an Artificer
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2009, 03:40:40 PM »
Too expensive, if priced properly.  One thing people tend to forget is that the charts are a SECONDARY rule for creating items; the primary rule is to price the item according to power.

Right, which is why you should use the magic trap crafting rules, which don't include that pesky disclaimer  :smirk

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Re: Polymorph on an Artificer
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2009, 03:45:00 PM »
Too expensive, if priced properly.  One thing people tend to forget is that the charts are a SECONDARY rule for creating items; the primary rule is to price the item according to power.

Right, which is why you should use the magic trap crafting rules, which don't include that pesky disclaimer  :smirk

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Re: Polymorph on an Artificer
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2009, 04:08:34 PM »
POOP! to the rune circle. Thought that was an amazing idea.

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Re: Polymorph on an Artificer
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2009, 04:24:22 PM »
Can't be mobile?  Enter the stronghold builder's guide  :smirk

And for magic traps, everyone knows you can trap a chest so it attacks when it's opened, right?
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Re: Polymorph on an Artificer
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2009, 04:42:13 PM »
Can't be mobile?  Enter the stronghold builder's guide  :smirk

Meh. Races of Stone was printed after Stronghold Builder's Guide. There's a strong case against it.

Rune Circles are probably a no-no for flying castles, given the flavor, so it's best to leave it up to DM fiat. (Unless it's a really big flying castle?)
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Re: Polymorph on an Artificer
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2009, 04:51:46 PM »
Can't be mobile?  Enter the stronghold builder's guide  :smirk

Meh. Races of Stone was printed after Stronghold Builder's Guide. There's a strong case against it.

Rune Circles are probably a no-no for flying castles, given the flavor, so it's best to leave it up to DM fiat. (Unless it's a really big flying castle?)

How big is big enough? What's the requirements on where a Rune Circle is placed?

Regardless, I think we can get it bigger.


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Re: Polymorph on an Artificer
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2009, 05:29:52 PM »
How big is big enough? What's the requirements on where a Rune Circle is placed?

Regardless, I think we can get it bigger.

Here's a quote from the "Creating a Rune Circle" section. I don't think there's a minimum size for how big place has to be where the Rune Circle is made...

Races of Stone, p.167
Creating A Rune Circle
"A rune circle is created by fusing magic runes into the ground or into the floor of a chamber. Once it is placed, a rune circle cannot be moved. Moving the stone that a rune circle is engraved upon always ruins the rune circle. Because the creation process creates a threefold connection between the location, the magic energy expended in the creation, and the physical earth or stone in which the runes are drawn, there’s no way to create a mobile rune circle. Even vehicles large enough to contain an entire rune circle do not allow for the creation of a mobile rune circle."

I think the line "there’s no way to create a mobile rune circle" pretty much kills the subject. Still ... a flying castle? Maybe.
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Re: Polymorph on an Artificer
« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2009, 05:37:43 PM »
Then, shouldn't tectonic shifts periodically cause all existing Rune Circles to disappear? This is assuming that the movement of the planet through space doesn't count.

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Re: Polymorph on an Artificer
« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2009, 05:46:27 PM »
Then, shouldn't tectonic shifts periodically cause all existing Rune Circles to disappear? This is assuming that the movement of the planet through space doesn't count.

Or the planet's rotation, or minor earthquakes, or settling of soil, et cetera.
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Re: Polymorph on an Artificer
« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2009, 06:08:42 PM »
So we turn the planet into our Stronghold? I'm sure it can be done :P

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Re: Polymorph on an Artificer
« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2009, 06:27:40 PM »
So we turn the planet into our Stronghold? I'm sure it can be done :P



Ok, let's start doing some calculations. What would the Spellcraft DC be to reshape a plane of existence/dominate a literal planet?


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Re: Polymorph on an Artificer
« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2009, 06:40:13 PM »
So we turn the planet into our Stronghold? I'm sure it can be done :P



Ok, let's start doing some calculations. What would the Spellcraft DC be to reshape a plane of existence/dominate a literal planet?

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Re: Polymorph on an Artificer
« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2009, 06:43:57 PM »
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Re: Polymorph on an Artificer
« Reply #36 on: June 03, 2009, 06:46:40 PM »
So we turn the planet into our Stronghold? I'm sure it can be done :P



Ok, let's start doing some calculations. What would the Spellcraft DC be to reshape a plane of existence/dominate a literal planet?

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Excellent point. Why make the world bend to your will when you can simply make a new world that you can keep in your pocket?


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Re: Polymorph on an Artificer
« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2009, 06:48:09 PM »
I give this conversation a +1.

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Re: Polymorph on an Artificer
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