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Outfitting A 10th level chararacter, with 700k gold.
« on: May 25, 2009, 04:18:45 AM »
So, I'm currently playing in a high-powered midlevel game. Everyone is lvl10 or 11, and most everyone has nearly infinite gold(atleast the players that hadn't died/joined the game(thats me) after they got the 400 million gold).

My soft-spot in optimization or character creation in general has and probably always will be the buying and choosing of gear.

At first it was the rules for magic item creation, which actually is still a problem.

second and most of all, it was the overwhelming amount of options... and more importantly, where exactly they come from.

In anycase, I could really use a hand with outfitting this character... it would be less of a problem if I didnt have so much gold.

Character:
human, strong heart halfling, or whisper gnome
scout 3
ranger 5
barbarian 1(whirling frenzy/pounce)
cleric 1(travel devotion and something else... not sure yet)

basically run of the mill melee swift hunter.

also... any specific item or property... could you guys just list what book its from as well? that wayy I can look it up:3 thanks.

appreciate it guys!

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Re: Outfitting A 10th level chararacter, with 700k gold.
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2009, 07:42:11 AM »
you're going both barbarian and cleric? most builds i've seen only chose one.  What style are you going to mostly focus on?  Tomes/Manuals are the easiest answer to what to spend on. +5 permanent bonus to a stat that stacks with everything is great.
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Re: Outfitting A 10th level chararacter, with 700k gold.
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2009, 08:17:29 AM »
you're going both barbarian and cleric? most builds i've seen only chose one.  What style are you going to mostly focus on?  Tomes/Manuals are the easiest answer to what to spend on. +5 permanent bonus to a stat that stacks with everything is great.

Tomes aren't very cost effective. The only thing i'll suggest is a Starmantle Cloak, i'm fond of being a tough cookie to kill but I wouldn't wear one myself. I'd rather cast Empyreal Ecstasy.

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Re: Outfitting A 10th level chararacter, with 700k gold.
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2009, 09:01:17 AM »
few items to start with:

Belt of Magnificence +6 - 200k
+10 weapon - 200k (magic[1], valorous[1], ...
+10 armor - 100k (magic[1], freedom[5], free[4])
+10 shield - 100k (magic[1], animated[2], fortification[5], free[2], darkwood heavy shield)
ring of universal energy resistance, greater - 180k
wings of flying - 54k
vest of resistance+5 - 25k

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Re: Outfitting A 10th level chararacter, with 700k gold.
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2009, 10:16:37 AM »
few items to start with:

Belt of Magnificence +6 - 200k
+10 weapon - 200k (magic[1], valorous[1], ...
+10 armor - 100k (magic[1], freedom[5], free[4])
+10 shield - 100k (magic[1], animated[2], fortification[5], free[2], darkwood heavy shield)
ring of universal energy resistance, greater - 180k
wings of flying - 54k
vest of resistance+5 - 25k

Just those first 5 will put him over his gold limit, though.

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Re: Outfitting A 10th level chararacter, with 700k gold.
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2009, 10:48:58 AM »
Check out the Bunko's bargain bin.

And also this:
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Re: Outfitting A 10th level chararacter, with 700k gold.
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2009, 02:20:06 PM »
Thanks for all the suggestions so far, A few things I'd like to add:

I forgot that travel devotion removes the need for pounce, actually... but is whirling frenzy still worth it? I know it gives +2 to ac + 2 to reflex saves(I think?) and +4 str, you lose the +4 con but oh well. Is it worth it?

Without it, I could take 6th level ranger instead and gain improved twf and not have to take the feat or get the balanced hand gloves from MIC.

A few things:

Practical items seem pretty useless, though I'd probably pick them up at a later time just for the heck of it... the DM does not throw that kind of stuff at the players often, and when he does It will probably screw you over no matter what. Theres a few players I'm pretty sure are using the DMs newbness to help themselves(cheating I suppose, or just changing how classes, items, etc work to their benefit and the DM would probably believe them).

Also, the DM is also not allowing the belt of magnificence(only one player has it, he regretted letting her get it without really looking at it) "because it costs less than the 6 items would individually", or something along those lines.

He is allowing custom magic items to an extent, so I think I could get away with putting stat bonuses on preexisting items. For instance I was going to purchase a continuous collar of umbral metamorphosis, and add Dexterity and intelligence +6 to it, I think it would cost around 40-50k at that point. I'd have to look.

This is also a heavy-evil campaign... right now were attempting to topple the Zentarim in FR, for what ever reason.

So obviously Holy and Magebane are instantly going on my weapons, also probably +1 defending armor spikes on my shield and breastplate. I'm not sure about all the other Holy enchants from MIC... like Holy surge and such. It would be worth it if I was using two 15-20 range weapons though.

anywho... lemme know what you guys think.

 

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Re: Outfitting A 10th level chararacter, with 700k gold.
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2009, 03:02:19 PM »
You don't need Travel Devotion with all that money. Just buy a Carpet of Flying. :)

Also, Ring of Entropic Deflection(MIC) for 8K and either Boots of Springing and Striding or any other magic item that gives a bonus to speed. The synergy effect will improve the Ring's 20% miss chance vs. ranged attacks to 50% miss chance vs. ranged attacks(including ranged touch attacks!), so long as you end your turn at least 10 ft away from where you started.
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Re: Outfitting A 10th level chararacter, with 700k gold.
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2009, 07:35:53 PM »
I'd suggest a psychoactive skin of proteus. It's great for sneaking, offense, defense, mobility, and utility. It really is amazing how good some 7 HD and lower forms are.

Other than that, I'd suggest getting items that can't be removed from you after you've used them. The stat-boosting books and various grafts and magical/psionic tattoos would be great for you. (They should also stack with whatever forms you get from the psychoactive skin...)

I'd also suggest buying other things that will serve you in good stead, such as a scroll of genesis and some item that allows you to 'port in at will.
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Re: Outfitting A 10th level chararacter, with 700k gold.
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2009, 01:15:42 PM »
Buy 20 Contingencies ala Craft Contingent Spell. At the very least, I'd suggest one that Dimension Doors you upon death, one that Revivifies you if the first one fires, and one that casts Heal if the second one fires. You might replace Dimension Door with Plane Shift (to some safe demi-plane that you made with Genesis).
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Re: Outfitting A 10th level chararacter, with 700k gold.
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2009, 01:25:14 PM »
Where is Genesis located? I searched Wizards consolidated spell list but It's not there.

Also, If I were to try to cast a 9th level spell from a scroll, without actually being able to cast 9ths... I would incur an ACF right?(For instance if I was a 9th level wizard).

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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2009, 01:32:28 PM »
Also, If I were to try to cast a 9th level spell from a scroll, without actually being able to cast 9ths... I would incur an ACF right?(For instance if I was a 9th level wizard).

You would need to make a caster level check vs. DC 18 i believe.
« Last Edit: May 26, 2009, 01:37:26 PM by Rebel7284 »
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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2009, 01:47:52 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2009, 02:12:29 PM »
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Re: Outfitting A 10th level chararacter, with 700k gold.
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2009, 04:13:24 PM »
Well, speaking of that stuff. I was actually planning on having a tower that would transport me (and anyone I designate) to a safe planar keep or something(I think theres an item that creates one?), but If I can find out where this Genesis spell is from (or if it exists at all?) that would be alot cooler to have my own demiplane.

Heh.

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Re: Outfitting A 10th level chararacter, with 700k gold.
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2009, 04:16:35 PM »
Well, speaking of that stuff. I was actually planning on having a tower that would transport me (and anyone I designate) to a safe planar keep or something(I think theres an item that creates one?), but If I can find out where this Genesis spell is from (or if it exists at all?) that would be alot cooler to have my own demiplane.

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Re: Outfitting A 10th level chararacter, with 700k gold.
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2009, 04:20:00 PM »
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/spells/genesis.htm

Originally from Defenders of Faith and Expanded Psionics Handbook.
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Re: Outfitting A 10th level chararacter, with 700k gold.
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2009, 04:50:45 PM »
Nice! Thanks guys. I had already looked on SRD but didn't look in the epic spell section, odd that its there(and that its not an epic spell).

Seems like it will work well... the entrance to my keep will planeshift me and anyone I designate to my very own plane!


Also, I've made some changes to my character... any suggestions would be awesome, if it sucks anyway:D

Scout5/ranger2/Dervish3

Kinda plain, I guess... but I think that gives me some decent stuff and I really like Dervish, and have never been able to use it.

The DM changed swift hunter so that it also stacks levels for ranger combat style, so I'll have TWF/ITWF, 2d6+1ac skirmish(4d6 with imp skirmish), evasion, 2 favored enemies, uncanny dodge, etc.

Does this sound decent to you all? I just realized it but Swift Hunter and dervish seems like a match made in heaven, maybe I'm just dizzy over Dervish though:).

Also, Damn Dervish is feat heavy... 4 feats down for it, Without the Rangers Combat styles I don't know how a normal dervish build would go without 2-4 levels in fighter atleast, also unsure as to what to do with my last feat... besides the dervish reqs all I have is Improved Skirmish.
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Re: Outfitting A 10th level chararacter, with 700k gold.
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2009, 04:52:51 PM »
Going to repost my character optimization questions somewhere else, seeing as this thread was originally for equipping it.

Thanks guys.

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Re: Outfitting A 10th level chararacter, with 700k gold.
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2009, 04:54:25 PM »
Eh, tangents happen.

Quick Draw feat.
H Haversack to put all the goodies in, like wands and powerstones.
TWF or Multihanded stuff on multihanded forms - to wield extra weapons ... helluva gold bag.
UMD via skill points even at the cc cost.

You are still magic item slot limited ... so for simplicity ...
you "only" have 10 or 11 super powered items going off all the time.

If the DM makes you make all of the items yourself, now you're just limited to every spell you have access to.
At-will all the time, Machine of Lum The Mad, pocket protector Lite.

The ~limit here, is how much item smack will the DM allow.
The build is rather secondary to the power of the items.