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Statting Negima
« on: May 19, 2009, 10:04:47 AM »
How would you stat some of the characters in the series?


Negi Springfield
LG Halfling Sorcerer/Unarmed swordsage/Spellwarp sniper/Enlightened fist/Jade phoenix mage/Abjurant champion
Feats: Battlecaster Offense, Delay Spell
Spells: Gust of Wind, Haste, Lightning bolt, Lightning leap, Spell flower, Swift wind wall
Equipment: +1 spell storing amulet of mighty fists, +1 spell storing gauntlet, potion of enlarge person

Asuna Kagurazaka
CG Human Barbarian (Spell SenseCM)/Legacy Champion
Feats: Leap of the Heavens, Mage Slayer, Pierce Magical Protection
Equipment: +1 greater dispelling greatsword with a shrink item effect on it, cloak of spell resistance.

Setsuna Sakurazaki
LG Lesser tiefling Artificer/Warblade
Feats: Avenging StrikeToB, Fiendish Bloodline, Leap of the Heavens, Outsider Wings
Equipment: A bunch of scrolls. I know I saw some gloves which let you summon daggers somewhere...

Kotarou Inugami
Shifter Swordsage/Druid/Nature's warrior/Warshaper

Mana Tatsumiya
LN Fighter/Spirit shaman/Cragtop archer/Master thrower

Haruna Saotome
Psion (shaper)/constructor

Jack Rakan
CN Goliath (Greater titan bloodline) Warblade 20+
Manouevers: IRON HEART friggin' SURGE!
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The tier system in a nutshell:
[spoiler]Tier 6: A cartographer.
Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman.
Tier 4: An expert marksman.
Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left.
Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.[/spoiler]

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Re: Statting Negima
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2009, 10:12:52 AM »
Truth to be told, Negima is what inspired me to make the Arcane Swordsage variant. I'll be basing a number of their spells (and a couple of PrCs) on that series, along with a few trinkets from the others.


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Re: Statting Negima
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2009, 10:23:44 AM »
Takamichi T. Takahata
NG Human Monk/Factotum/Iaijutsu Master
Feats: Carmendine Monk, Superior Unarmed Strike, Leap Attack?

Requires some iberal interpretation of the term 'scabbard', but then again, so does TTT's fighting style in the first place. Not sure how to add Kanka, though. Perhaps ditch 5 levels of IM to add some kind of own casting PrC and Arcane Strike?

For Kotarou, perhaps a Shifter Barbarian or similar?
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Re: Statting Negima
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2009, 02:12:41 PM »
Not sure how to add Kanka, though.
Barbarian rage was my... liberal interpretation of Kanka (Kenka?) for Asuna. Don't get caught up in adding casting - A magical "homing sword" ability can just be represented by Weapon Focus. :p

Maybe a hulking hurler build with the area attack option?

TTT's "Fist Pressure" has a maximum range of 10m, which would equate to 25ft. Since it's pretty much impossible to see, maybe Flick of the Wrist and that skill trick which does much the same thing?

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« Last Edit: May 19, 2009, 02:25:06 PM by Prime32 »
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The tier system in a nutshell:
[spoiler]Tier 6: A cartographer.
Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman.
Tier 4: An expert marksman.
Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left.
Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.[/spoiler]

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Re: Statting Negima
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2009, 02:20:21 PM »
Not sure how to add Kanka, though.
Barbarian rage was my... liberal interpretation of Kanka (Kenka?) for Asuna.

Maybe a hulking hurler build with the area attack option?

TTT's "Fist Pressure" has a maximum range of 10m, which would equate to 25ft. Since it's pretty much impossible to see, maybe Flick of the Wrist and that skill trick which does much the same thing?
According to my calculator, that would be 32 feet. Perhaps a homebrewed beefed-up version of Greatreach Gauntlets could be used, maybe combined with other stuff.
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Re: Statting Negima
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2009, 02:27:05 PM »
According to my calculator, that would be 32 feet. Perhaps a homebrewed beefed-up version of Greatreach Gauntlets could be used, maybe combine with other stuff.
Eh... I was going by the 5ft = 2m metric conversions -_-'
30ft-range is easier to get than 25ft though.
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The tier system in a nutshell:
[spoiler]Tier 6: A cartographer.
Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman.
Tier 4: An expert marksman.
Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left.
Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.[/spoiler]

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Re: Statting Negima
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2009, 02:30:17 PM »
According to my calculator, that would be 32 feet. Perhaps a homebrewed beefed-up version of Greatreach Gauntlets could be used, maybe combine with other stuff.
Eh... I was going by the 5ft = 2m metric conversions -_-'
30ft-range is easier to get than 25ft though.
I was going by whatever conversion rate my mobile phone's got saved. :D
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Re: Statting Negima
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2009, 04:11:47 PM »
For Kotarou, perhaps a Shifter Barbarian or similar?


That works until he goes full wolf form. Then you have Wild Shape. Maybe Wild Shape Ranger, with unarmed attacks through some method? Some kind of mix between Warlock, WS Ranger, and maybe a little Monk?

I always stated TTT out as a Warlock, and just had his EB act as the Kankaho. A little reflavoring, the right type of Eldritch Essence, and you've got a veritable cannon.


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Re: Statting Negima
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2009, 04:16:20 PM »
For Kotarou, perhaps a Shifter Barbarian or similar?


That works until he goes full wolf form. Then you have Wild Shape. Maybe Wild Shape Ranger, with unarmed attacks through some method? Some kind of mix between Warlock, WS Ranger, and maybe a little Monk?
Would Weretouched Master work? I'm unfamiliar with the PrC.
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Re: Statting Negima
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2009, 04:24:33 PM »
For Kotarou, perhaps a Shifter Barbarian or similar?


That works until he goes full wolf form. Then you have Wild Shape. Maybe Wild Shape Ranger, with unarmed attacks through some method? Some kind of mix between Warlock, WS Ranger, and maybe a little Monk?
Would Weretouched Master work? I'm unfamiliar with the PrC.

For Wolf form? Maybe.


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Re: Statting Negima
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2009, 05:44:01 PM »
For Kotarou, perhaps a Shifter Barbarian or similar?


That works until he goes full wolf form. Then you have Wild Shape. Maybe Wild Shape Ranger, with unarmed attacks through some method? Some kind of mix between Warlock, WS Ranger, and maybe a little Monk?
Would Weretouched Master work? I'm unfamiliar with the PrC.
At first he would get the Trip ability while shifting, and eventually the animal and hybrid forms of a werewolf.

There are shifter druid substitution levelsRoE that give up wild shape for improved shifting and a "beast spirit".
« Last Edit: May 19, 2009, 05:52:23 PM by Prime32 »
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The tier system in a nutshell:
[spoiler]Tier 6: A cartographer.
Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman.
Tier 4: An expert marksman.
Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left.
Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.[/spoiler]

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Re: Statting Negima
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2009, 08:03:25 PM »
For Kotarou, perhaps a Shifter Barbarian or similar?


That works until he goes full wolf form. Then you have Wild Shape. Maybe Wild Shape Ranger, with unarmed attacks through some method? Some kind of mix between Warlock, WS Ranger, and maybe a little Monk?
Would Weretouched Master work? I'm unfamiliar with the PrC.
At first he would get the Trip ability while shifting, and eventually the animal and hybrid forms of a werewolf.

There are shifter druid substitution levelsRoE that give up wild shape for improved shifting and a "beast spirit".
That should do the trick, it's basically what he does, on top of swordsage moves, hes been learning ninjutsu after all.
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Re: Statting Negima
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2009, 10:13:06 AM »
Anyone got an idea of what to do with Flans Exarmatio? And it's enhanced version?
Need a spell that removes weapons and clothing of the target, without lasting harm to magic items. Magical stuff seem to be scattered all over the place while mundane clothing seem to be annihilated sometimes.

Whats our hero going to do without a spell to instantly strip every female in his vicinity?

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The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
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Re: Statting Negima
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2009, 12:33:13 PM »
Anyone got an idea of what to do with Flans Exarmatio? And it's enhanced version?
Need a spell that removes weapons and clothing of the target, without lasting harm to magic items. Magical stuff seem to be scattered all over the place while mundane clothing seem to be annihilated sometimes.

Whats our hero going to do without a spell to instantly strip every female in his vicinity?
Well, shatter only affects "crystal, glass, ceramic, or porcelain"...
My work
The tier system in a nutshell:
[spoiler]Tier 6: A cartographer.
Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman.
Tier 4: An expert marksman.
Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left.
Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.[/spoiler]

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Re: Statting Negima
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2009, 06:35:44 PM »
Anyone got an idea of what to do with Flans Exarmatio? And it's enhanced version?
Need a spell that removes weapons and clothing of the target, without lasting harm to magic items. Magical stuff seem to be scattered all over the place while mundane clothing seem to be annihilated sometimes.

Whats our hero going to do without a spell to instantly strip every female in his vicinity?
Well, shatter only affects "crystal, glass, ceramic, or porcelain"...
It can also be targeted on single items of any composition. Now, if we can find a way to chain it to affect a massive number of targets...
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Re: Statting Negima
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2009, 10:14:35 PM »
Anyone got an idea of what to do with Flans Exarmatio? And it's enhanced version?
Need a spell that removes weapons and clothing of the target, without lasting harm to magic items. Magical stuff seem to be scattered all over the place while mundane clothing seem to be annihilated sometimes.

Whats our hero going to do without a spell to instantly strip every female in his vicinity?
Well, shatter only affects "crystal, glass, ceramic, or porcelain"...
It can also be targeted on single items of any composition. Now, if we can find a way to chain it to affect a massive number of targets...

Maybe an AoE version? Like a lesser MDJ. May need Homebrew for this part unless you want to use Chain Spell to eat 5th level spell slots whenever the character sneezes.


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Re: Statting Negima
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2009, 01:49:54 AM »
Well, it destroys mundane clothing, but magical and harder stuff like metal just get scattered around the victim....

I'm thinking a specialised version of Telekinesis + Gust of Wind here. Using solely the Disarm option, and working on everything, including disarming armors/clothing and blowing them a couple of feet away.
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
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Re: Statting Negima
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2009, 11:57:12 AM »
I'm up to date on the manga now - I added some stuff to the first post. In particular, it's possible for Negi to strike with four touch spells per turn, though it requires setup time.
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The tier system in a nutshell:
[spoiler]Tier 6: A cartographer.
Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman.
Tier 4: An expert marksman.
Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left.
Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.[/spoiler]

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Re: Statting Negima
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2009, 12:15:06 PM »
So, how do you let Rakan surf on a sword he throws at Mach 3?
The mind transcends the body.
It's also a little cold because of that.
Please get it a blanket.

I wish I could read your mind,
I can barely read mine.

"Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. At 2:15, it begins rolling up characters."

[spoiler]
"Just what do you think the moon up in the sky is? Everyone sees that big, round shiny thing and thinks there must be something round up there, right? That's just silly. The truth is much more awesome than that. You can almost never see the real Moon, and its appearance is death to humans. You can only see the Moon when it's reflected in things. And the things it reflects in, like water or glass, can all be broken, right? Since the moon you see in the sky is just being reflected in the heavens, if you tear open the heavens it's easy to break it~"
-Ibuki Suika, on overkill

To sumbolaion diakoneto moi, basilisk ouranionon.
Epigenentheto, apoleia keraune hos timeis pteirei.
Hekatonkatis kai khiliakis astrapsato.
Khiliarkhou Astrape!
[/spoiler]

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Re: Statting Negima
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2009, 01:10:29 PM »
So, how do you let Rakan surf on a sword he throws at Mach 3?
However Tao Pai Pai did it... Sudden Leap?
My work
The tier system in a nutshell:
[spoiler]Tier 6: A cartographer.
Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman.
Tier 4: An expert marksman.
Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left.
Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.[/spoiler]