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Apologies?
« on: April 13, 2009, 04:41:15 AM »
I just checked into the main page today to see if a new episode had been uploaded. And then I saw the update from April 10th.

Why?

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Re: Apologies?
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2009, 06:07:28 AM »
I'm not going to get into the whole thing, but essentially:

1) At I-Con last weekend, at the very end of a very interesting, enlightening panel on the State of the Industry of Gaming, which included only the 4 of us (Me, Josh, Zeke, and Robert Bohl) led by Jamie Chambers and Cam Banks, Josh said some mean comments.  Later that night, as we were all packing up to go, he said a couple of other inappropriate things to Jamie.
2) Cam is friends with Fred Hicks, talked to his friend, and like a game of telephone, some details were left out and others were misconstrued.
3) Fred twittered that we should all leave podcasting and the gaming hobby for ever and refused to see any other side than what he thought was correct.

Some of the details have me frustrated, but what it came down to is that Josh has finally realized that his approach, while 90% on target and acceptable, is 10% of the time, not. 

We're going to work on actually, really, fine tuning a bit.  The same night at I-Con we presented a panel on the 7 Words You Can't Say While Gaming.  We are the ones pushing for not kicking people out and improving communication.  That is what we're passionate about.  We want to focus on these things and lessen the negativity that is occassionally there as well. 

So step 1 was an apology on Josh's part.  The rest is effort, applied by the 3 of us, and hopefully will only be noticeable in that the rest of our message is louder and less clouded by the overly negative. 
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Re: Apologies?
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2009, 05:46:03 PM »
While Josh can come off as a bit of a jerk, to me it seems that it is due to his passion on the subjects he does talk about, he never seems to be doing so belligerently.  I hope things can be worked out between everyone as my interactions with the gameologists, Jamie, and Cam have all been positive in the past.

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Re: Apologies?
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2009, 06:01:43 PM »
That is our sincerest hope.

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Re: Apologies?
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2009, 01:47:05 AM »
It saddens me to hear that things went so far south.  I'm glad you three are planning on turning this negative event into a strength, though. :)
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Re: Apologies?
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2009, 07:42:58 AM »
If I could, I'd hug Josh right now.

Not many people know how to apologize anymore.

And having him apologize... It was just really big of him.  :)

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Re: Apologies?
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2009, 04:08:36 PM »
When Fred said that I almost sarcastically tweeted something about Josh, but then thought better of it.  Now I'm glad I didn't.  Somehow it's not funny if it turns out to be true :(

Anywho, I have no idea what happened or what was said, but I do know the hobby (rpg podcasts) would be poorer without Josh in it.

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Re: Apologies?
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2009, 05:13:11 AM »
See, if someone sent me a message like that, I'd tell them to get bent.

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Re: Apologies?
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2009, 08:03:05 AM »
Sometimes you need a kick in the pants.  Or the nads.

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Re: Apologies?
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2009, 06:18:15 AM »
See, if someone sent me a message like that, I'd tell them to get bent.


exactly, same here. The only time I apologize for offending someone is when they're a close friend and it was an accident.

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Re: Apologies?
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2009, 03:31:07 PM »
Well, you're very manly then.

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Re: Apologies?
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2009, 12:15:09 AM »
umm.. was that facetious? seriously, I can't tell if you were being sarcastic.

But, by way of elaboration, I kinda offend people just by existing, so... It's pretty impractical to try to not offend people.