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How 'Bout That PHB2 , eh ?!
« on: April 10, 2009, 09:39:51 PM »
How 'bout that PHB2 , eh !!

I can't wait for Arcane Power to come out, and get all tingle-ly for it, too.

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Re: How 'Bout That PHB2 , eh ?!
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2009, 02:14:50 AM »
PHB2 was awesome, best thing is that it brought a whole lotta options. Goliath were always one of my favorite races and I look foward to play one. Shamans and Bards does look very nice and Sorcerer almost make me want to go pew pew blaster. Avenger is great but it really need some new powers to be more interesting.

Arcane Power gonna be probably a pretty nice book for what I've seen with excerpts but I'm not too fond of Arcane characters so my expectation are really on the Divine Power (where my personal favorite Cleric and Paladin will finally get some love).

I can't wait to see the released version of Hyrbrid Classes (PH3), now THAT's options ! This is exactly what was missing for 4e and I'm glad they made it quite balanced (still in playtest but on the good track)
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Re: How 'Bout That PHB2 , eh ?!
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2009, 01:23:41 PM »
I'm in love with the Warden, especially Earthstrength. They also seem to have a lot of NAD-targetting powers as melee characters go.
I find Goliaths to be rather boring now, actually. Perhaps it has to do with the fact that I fully disagree with WotC'S phobia of giving PCs Oversized, and am of the opinion that if any race is to get it, it should be Goliaths. It was prety much their whole schtick as a race in 3.5.

I'm also looking forward to AP... Hopefully, my pet Staffizard build will finally have better things to do with his feats than burn them on plusses to defenses.
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Re: How 'Bout That PHB2 , eh ?!
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2009, 07:08:54 AM »
It seems to have made possible the first Arbitrary # of Attacks build.
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Re: How 'Bout That PHB2 , eh ?!
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2009, 09:45:12 AM »
Didn't tsuyo already post an infinite attacks chain (core, even) around here?
EDIT: Here. Apparently not his idea, though.
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Re: How 'Bout That PHB2 , eh ?!
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2009, 06:05:10 PM »
If I'm reading that right, though, you have to keep hitting for it to continue. The Quicksilver one I posted is absolutely arbitrary; each attack is independent of the one before it.
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Re: How 'Bout That PHB2 , eh ?!
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2009, 08:02:40 AM »
Bard: Their Virtue of Cunning ability is absolutely incredible. If the party is a bunch of Kobolds or Goblins, then a Bard makes for the single best addition you can make. Their powers aren't too shabby either.

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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2009, 05:36:20 PM »
Druid: Am I reading the Primal Guardian right? Does this mean they get Con to AC in Medium armor?
There is no Medium armor anymore, only light (Cloth, Leather, Hide) and heavy (Chain, Scale, Plate).


Feats: Martial Training is amazing for Heavy Blades and Rangers (Dex to attack with Scimitars! Dex to damage, yet again!). Weapon Expertise is goddamn useful, combining it with Implement Expertise is a must for Pallylocks or Swordmages.
Weapon Expertise and Implement Expertise (or two WEs for weapons with multiple types, like a khopesh) won't stack as per the errata, AFAIK.
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Re: How 'Bout That PHB2 , eh ?!
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2009, 05:54:40 PM »
Druid: Am I reading the Primal Guardian right? Does this mean they get Con to AC in Medium armor?
There is no Medium armor anymore, only light (Cloth, Leather, Hide) and heavy (Chain, Scale, Plate).

This proves how little I play 4E. I forgot that.

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Feats: Martial Training is amazing for Heavy Blades and Rangers (Dex to attack with Scimitars! Dex to damage, yet again!). Weapon Expertise is goddamn useful, combining it with Implement Expertise is a must for Pallylocks or Swordmages.
Weapon Expertise and Implement Expertise (or two WEs for weapons with multiple types, like a khopesh) won't stack as per the errata, AFAIK.

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Re: How 'Bout That PHB2 , eh ?!
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2009, 12:22:59 AM »
Y'know ...
1e through 3.5e is closer together, than 4e.
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but Sinfire has gone and made me feel better ...  :fu
I was enjoying being in the dumps about 4e.

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Re: How 'Bout That PHB2 , eh ?!
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2009, 07:30:42 AM »
Come to think of it, is the -2 to attack anyone but the marker an inherent property of marks, or is it part of the class feature the defender uses to mark?
So if I mark someone with Student of the Sword or the Warden's Nature's Fury, will they take the -2 or not?
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Re: How 'Bout That PHB2 , eh ?!
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2009, 08:38:43 AM »
It is an inherent property of marks
(I believe it is the only inherent property to marks)

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Re: How 'Bout That PHB2 , eh ?!
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2009, 12:26:13 PM »
Indeed. Marked is a condition defined in the PHB alongside the others (dazed, etc...).
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2009, 02:06:27 PM »
Indeed. Marked is a condition defined in the PHB alongside the others (dazed, etc...).
Okay. I was just checking since the respective class features of Fighter, Paladin, and Swordmage all said "marked enemies get -2 to hit on attacks that don't include you yadda yada", but the Warden's didn't.
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