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Help refining Psion
« on: March 30, 2009, 01:28:39 PM »
My character in one of the games i'm in just got killed, church in Borovia from Castle Ravenloft module stupid circle of death scroll  :fo, so its time for me to make a new one. I'll be coming in at lvl 7.

32 point buy, with most any thing being fair game as long as it is reasonable, no Dragon unless really vital since we don't have any and would have to find it.

Build has been updated in this post as of 3/31

Stats (going off memory so might not add up): str 10, dex 13, con 13, int 17, wis 13, cha 10 roughly around there.

Build: Shaper 5/ Crystal Master 10 / shaper +5

feats: Psicrystal affinity(1st), earth sense (human), Boost construct(bonus), Psicrystal containment (3rd),  earth power (6th), mindsight (9th)

powers:
1st: Astral Construct, Minor Creation, Crystal shard, Vigor, inertial armor
2nd: Repair damage, NRG Push, Share Pain, Bestow power
3rd: Dispel Psi., NRG wall, Time hop, touch sight
4th: fabricate, quintessence, death urge, wall of ectoplasm
5th: hail of crystals, major creation, plane shift, ecto shambler (use with walls to box into area)
6th: crystalize, fabricate, temperal acceleration, desintigrate
7th: nrg conversion, mindblank personal, evade burst, Insanity
8th: astral seed, true metabolism, bend reality, shadow body
9th: genesis, true creation, affinity field(research)

Embeded gems from Crystal master:
Aquamarine untyped int bonus max +3
Moonstone: insight bonus to AC and all saves caps at +6
Malachite: telepathy to get mindsight later, lvl 12 maybe.
Amethyst: now both me and my psicrystal can swim in the black lotus extract i create, that will discourage use of swallow whole   :smirk
for the last one i'm debating on Diamond for more PP, Emerald for PR, or Azurite for not needing to eat, drink, or sleep. Or even one of the utility ones but not likely.

Equipment:Starting with Torc of Power Pres., looking at Headband of Int

the party consists of a Ftr/Warblade, Psi. War./Pyro, Druid/Daggerspell Shaper, Wizard/Mage of the Arcane Order (god wizard buffer), and myself.  I plan on going for BF controll with wall and constructs then use NRG Push to put the enemies where i want them, getting hit by the wall and beat on by the party and ACs.  Without a trap monkey i plan on using 1 pt constructs to be crash test dummies for us.
« Last Edit: March 31, 2009, 01:14:06 PM by archangel.arcanis »
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Re: Help refining Psion
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2009, 03:37:35 PM »
I'd definitely take the Malachite crystal (telepathy of 30 ft +10/crystal) and the Mindsight feat (Lords of Madness). The Moonstone isn't bad, either. I'd rather have that than the Tiger's Eye.
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Re: Help refining Psion
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2009, 04:08:51 PM »
I'm only lvl 7 so all i have is aquamarine but was looking toward more later.  I had orignally been working on doing ranged touch and the extra dex would have helped but with less focus on that i might just go for the defensive one.

I was reading the pimp my psion thread and saw the reference to torc + earth power + bestow power = recharge so i might do that swapping out one of my 2nd level powers for it, so i can have some endurance if a fight goes bad and i need to nova on something.  I'm looking to see if there is a way to make the recharge a bit faster than it is so the party doesn't have to wait on me for an hour just to get some points back. Right now for me it would be 1 pt every 2 rounds because i have to regain focus as a standard action.
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Re: Help refining Psion
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2009, 04:21:24 AM »
You can give up the psychic body feat and just use the power share pain. You'll get more effective hit points out of it, and you get to save a feat. I would also look at getting metamorphosis ASAP. Delicious. Even if you're just casting it on your psicrystal. Constructor+Crystal Master looks like hardcore manifester level loss. I don't know if they are worth losing three levels. You might even consider getting Constructor 7 instead of crystal master 9 and 10 for the utility construct. Also... skins of proteus as soon as you can get them. And where is psychic reformation?
OOC-well for that matter he could just ride on my sword, that's about 15' ;)
OOC - That's what SHE said!  But, otherwise, that works for me, if you guys are willing.

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Re: Help refining Psion
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2009, 11:51:46 AM »
Editing initial post to reflect changes in build.

Yea i think i'll drop psi body. but go for earth sense in its place then Earth power at lvl 9 so i can recharge, if only slowly.  I'll need to swap out one of my 2nd lvl powers for bestow power though, probably swarm of crystals. But the party would be willing to give me 5 minutes after a difficult fight to gain back 25 pts, this could increase if i get wis 13 and psi. meditation.

Metamorph is going to be redundant with a focused transmuter in the group he already spams polymorph on anyone in the party who wants it, normally in a hydra form of some kind.


looking at the gems again this is what i'm thinking about:
Aquamarine: unnamed int bonus, why wouldn't i take this
Moonstone: insight bonus to AC and all saves caps at +6
Malachite: telepathy to get mindsight later, lvl 12 maybe.
Amethyst: now both me and my psicrystal can swim in the black lotus extract i create, that will discourage use of swallow whole  :smirk

for the last one i'm debating on Diamond for more PP, Emerald for PR, or Azurite for not needing to eat, drink, or sleep. Or even one of the utility ones but not likely.

i'm also going to drop NRG missile until later since i shouldn't need to be blasting at all just walls, constructs, and pushing. Maybe 12th lvl.  Aslo might go leadership to increase recharge abilities with affinity field and followers, the psi warrior would probably appreciate that too since we can recharge him as well.
« Last Edit: March 31, 2009, 12:41:28 PM by archangel.arcanis »
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Re: Help refining Psion
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2009, 01:34:43 PM »
for the last one i'm debating on Diamond for more PP, Emerald for PR, or Azurite for not needing to eat, drink, or sleep. Or even one of the utility ones but not likely.
You can get a Ring of Sustenance for not needing to eat, drink or sleep, and you can probably fit in a PP-recharge set-up and/or get a batch of +1 Manifesting Arrows for some extra PP.

So I'd go with the Emerald, assuming the PR is worthwhile (and I think you can increase the PR by another 5 points with Daazzix's Vest (DMG 2), assuming magic/psionic transparency is in full effect) :)
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Re: Help refining Psion
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2009, 01:42:31 PM »
for the last one i'm debating on Diamond for more PP, Emerald for PR, or Azurite for not needing to eat, drink, or sleep. Or even one of the utility ones but not likely.
You can get a Ring of Sustenance for not needing to eat, drink or sleep, and you can probably fit in a PP-recharge set-up and/or get a batch of +1 Manifesting Arrows for some extra PP.

So I'd go with the Emerald, assuming the PR is worthwhile (and I think you can increase the PR by another 5 points with Daazzix's Vest (DMG 2), assuming magic/psionic transparency is in full effect) :)

Good points all around, i can't believe i forgot ring of sust. almost every character i ever had has had one. I already have the recharge in there at 1pt a round until high levels in which i get affinity field and will have probably taken leadership to get a bunch of 3rd lvl psions to help.

PR is actually a bit low in my opinion but yes full transparency is in effect, to the extent of psi/spellcraft are the same skill as well as use psi/magic device. I'll look at the vest as soon as i can.
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Re: Help refining Psion
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2009, 04:36:05 PM »
i got to look at the vest and the cost is really low for the gain.  I'm definitely going to have to get one. Once i get that at lvl 15 my PR will level off at 34 (with vest) until i can upgrade the vest or find some other way to increase PR/SR
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Re: Help refining Psion
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2009, 04:40:19 PM »
That should do nicely :)

Good luck with your character :)
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Re: Help refining Psion
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2009, 04:52:41 PM »
i got to look at the vest and the cost is really low for the gain.  I'm definitely going to have to get one. Once i get that at lvl 15 my PR will level off at 34 (with vest) until i can upgrade the vest or find some other way to increase PR/SR
In CPsi, there is a psionic equivalent of the cleric spell Spell Resistance (called Power Resistance... how original). That would probably be better than what you could get with the gem, especially since it scales better.
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