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Re: Samurai Poll
« Reply #80 on: July 11, 2009, 01:49:20 PM »
Hmm...Kenjutsu seems to vary quite a bit too.  Should I make a defensive and an offensive style?

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Re: Samurai Poll
« Reply #81 on: July 11, 2009, 02:41:16 PM »
I'd put emphasis on offense. It's more Samurai-esque.

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Re: Samurai Poll
« Reply #82 on: July 12, 2009, 01:39:06 PM »
How about I make one of the Feats a style Feat.  You get whichever Feat goes with the school you practiced in.

All I'd have to do is research the various schools of Kenjutsu  :banghead

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Re: Samurai Poll
« Reply #83 on: July 13, 2009, 04:10:56 AM »
I'll help with the school names, once my brain is back on. for now I'll say you'd probably want to use one of the more famous old Yagyu schools like Yagyu Shinkage Ryu for your kenjutsu type, and if going offense/defense let it take the defensive (ever read about the No-Mind? Shuji Suriken sounds a bit more defensively minded than straight out offense, though it IS used for cutting a foe down). They're just too large a school and too famous a school name to pass up. Also, Miyamoto Musashi's style of two-swords was called Hyoho Niten Ichi Ryu, or Niten Ryu for short.

For the odd styles, maybe a note that the old school Kage-Ryu had an emphasis on No-Dachi (greatswords?) or something.

First off, definitely decide on a time period you want the class to be from. Are we talking 17th century, if we're mentioning Musashi's style in the past tense? Just make sure which you'd like, since schools were split, modified, and preferred over one another depending on the years we're talking...
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Re: Samurai Poll
« Reply #84 on: July 13, 2009, 07:25:20 AM »
Have you considered making Samurai and Ronin two different classes, like Paladin and Blackguard?
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Re: Samurai Poll
« Reply #85 on: July 13, 2009, 09:17:57 AM »
To be honest, I'd stick with one swordstyle. Just give it several feat options. Both TWF and Power Attack, for example.
Making more styles is probably more effort than it's worth.

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Re: Samurai Poll
« Reply #86 on: July 13, 2009, 10:38:38 AM »
I'll help with the school names, once my brain is back on. for now I'll say you'd probably want to use one of the more famous old Yagyu schools like Yagyu Shinkage Ryu for your kenjutsu type, and if going offense/defense let it take the defensive (ever read about the No-Mind? Shuji Suriken sounds a bit more defensively minded than straight out offense, though it IS used for cutting a foe down). They're just too large a school and too famous a school name to pass up. Also, Miyamoto Musashi's style of two-swords was called Hyoho Niten Ichi Ryu, or Niten Ryu for short.

For the odd styles, maybe a note that the old school Kage-Ryu had an emphasis on No-Dachi (greatswords?) or something.

First off, definitely decide on a time period you want the class to be from. Are we talking 17th century, if we're mentioning Musashi's style in the past tense? Just make sure which you'd like, since schools were split, modified, and preferred over one another depending on the years we're talking...

Theoretically I'd like it to be flexible enough to cover most time periods.

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Re: Samurai Poll
« Reply #87 on: July 13, 2009, 10:39:05 AM »
Have you considered making Samurai and Ronin two different classes, like Paladin and Blackguard?

Ronin is getting saved till after the Samurai is done.

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Re: Samurai Poll
« Reply #88 on: July 13, 2009, 10:39:53 AM »
To be honest, I'd stick with one swordstyle. Just give it several feat options. Both TWF and Power Attack, for example.
Making more styles is probably more effort than it's worth.

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Re: Samurai Poll
« Reply #89 on: July 14, 2009, 01:49:03 PM »
A quick peek on wiki reveals the following list:


Hyoho Niten Ichi-ry?
Kashima Shinden Jikishinkage-ry?
Kashima Shin-ry?
Kashima Shinto-ry?
Maniwa Nen-ry?
Tatsumi-ry?
Tenshin Sh?den Katori Shint?-ry?
Yagy? Shinkage-ry?
Owari Yagyû-ryû


http://www.koryu.com/guide/kenjutsu.html


are there any more schools besides these?

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Re: Samurai Poll
« Reply #90 on: July 16, 2009, 11:39:24 AM »
One way to do the different schools, might be to include Martial Study and Martial Stance in the bonus feat list. Diamond Mind just screams No-thought to me, for example. Since the Samurai would only count half his level for initiator level and have no recovery mechanic (not to mention only end up with four manouvres max), this doesn't seem to be terribly overpowered.
At a later level, you might want to add some feat/ability that lets him add his WIS mod to his IL and selecter higher level manouvres, if he qualifies.

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Re: Samurai Poll
« Reply #91 on: July 16, 2009, 12:14:13 PM »
Lemme do the Ki abilities first.  Actually now that I think of it they might be better for simulating school styles than the Feats...

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Re: Samurai Poll
« Reply #92 on: July 18, 2009, 01:16:19 PM »
The Two Swrod style is done.  I think for regular Kenjutsu they'll get two feats based on their school, and all the others will be the same. 

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Re: Samurai Poll
« Reply #93 on: July 22, 2009, 02:35:10 PM »
kenjutsu is done (except ofr the School Feats), and I'm adding Iaijutsu as a Feat set as well.  Any thoughts on the Cavalry guy?  There dont seem to be many mounted feats.  I might fill it in with weapon abased feats for the spear or sword.

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Re: Samurai Poll
« Reply #94 on: July 23, 2009, 02:25:03 PM »
Okay the path of the Individual (exotic weapons) is better done by prestige classes. 

So for now all I need to do is finish up Iaijutsu, make the School Feats, and then start on the Ki abilities.  All the other Military Training Feat sets should be up.  I of course await your feedback as always :D


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Re: Samurai Poll
« Reply #95 on: July 24, 2009, 01:12:23 PM »
Any suggestions for the last two Iaijutsu Feats?  I'm thinking I may have to make a few.

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Re: Samurai Poll
« Reply #96 on: July 24, 2009, 03:52:41 PM »
Any suggestions for the last two Iaijutsu Feats?  I'm thinking I may have to make a few.

What do you feel is missing?

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Re: Samurai Poll
« Reply #97 on: July 25, 2009, 01:15:40 AM »
well we have the ability to strike first, and quickly, but not devastatingly

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Re: Samurai Poll
« Reply #98 on: July 25, 2009, 04:12:34 AM »
I don't see Iaijutsu Focus as a Class Skill, so maybe that at level one and delay everything else one step?
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Re: Samurai Poll
« Reply #99 on: July 25, 2009, 12:19:53 PM »
Maybe turn some of the Iaijutsu Master abilities in feats?