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Re: The "Thing's Im not allowed to do while gaming" thread
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2009, 02:07:45 PM »
I am not allowed to build characters in BESM (Big Eyes, Small Mouth) with immunities based on D&D attack forms/special attacks and conditions. (e.g. abilities like evasion+mettle and immunity to ability damage/drain, petrification, poison, transmutation, blindness, deafness, surprise, etc.)

edit: The important thing to keep in mind here is that BESM is a point-creation system, kind of like GURPS as I understand it, but it's a lot looser and easier to 'sploit. When our GM awarded us 200 something points to build characters, I spent OVER ONE HUNDRED FIFTY POINTS ON IMMUNITIES, and created a couple simple, versatile attacks with the remaining fifty points. The attacks I created were bad enough to warrant me getting "banned for life" from his games, but the immunities were "too over-the-top" for him. I calmly explained to him that he'd given us enough points to create a god, and so I did. He was not amused. (I can't help it if the other players in the group can't optimize their way out of a paper bag.)
200 points? Isn't that equivalent to a level 40 D&D character?
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Re: The "Thing's Im not allowed to do while gaming" thread
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2009, 02:21:43 PM »
I am not allowed to build characters in BESM (Big Eyes, Small Mouth) with immunities based on D&D attack forms/special attacks and conditions. (e.g. abilities like evasion+mettle and immunity to ability damage/drain, petrification, poison, transmutation, blindness, deafness, surprise, etc.)

edit: The important thing to keep in mind here is that BESM is a point-creation system, kind of like GURPS as I understand it, but it's a lot looser and easier to 'sploit. When our GM awarded us 200 something points to build characters, I spent OVER ONE HUNDRED FIFTY POINTS ON IMMUNITIES, and created a couple simple, versatile attacks with the remaining fifty points. The attacks I created were bad enough to warrant me getting "banned for life" from his games, but the immunities were "too over-the-top" for him. I calmly explained to him that he'd given us enough points to create a god, and so I did. He was not amused. (I can't help it if the other players in the group can't optimize their way out of a paper bag.)
200 points? Isn't that equivalent to a level 40 D&D character?

See, that's the point I was trying to make to him. Apparently it was "fairly average" for the other players, who didn't seem to have a very good grasp on the game at all, and blew a lot of their character points on ridiculous things like teleportation, reincarnation/regeneration, incorporeality, transmutation, flight, and bizarre and unnecessary transformation sequences. I just gave my character an extraordinarily high initiative, a ranged attack pattern, super speed & super strength, heavy armor, deception/feinting, the equivalent of a 'works-on-anything' Sneak Attack  (constructs, undead, incorporeal, immortals, etc.) ability, and immunity to everything under the sun (and places the sun doesn't shine).

I could kill virtually any of the other characters in a straight fight (and was guaranteed to kill them in an unfair one). The GM got mad for my having "broken" the game. *sigh* Just goes to show you how years of my robust roleplaying experience ruined the game for others (namely the GM) who didn't understand their own system of choice. He was expecting me to spend my points on things like skills ... which are utterly useless if you have even a modicum of imagination and roleplaying skill (except the combat skills, of course, which I'd maxed out quite inexpensively).
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Re: The "Thing's Im not allowed to do while gaming" thread
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2009, 01:51:05 AM »
I am not allowed to build characters in BESM (Big Eyes, Small Mouth) with immunities based on D&D attack forms/special attacks and conditions. (e.g. abilities like evasion+mettle and immunity to ability damage/drain, petrification, poison, transmutation, blindness, deafness, surprise, etc.)

edit: The important thing to keep in mind here is that BESM is a point-creation system, kind of like GURPS as I understand it, but it's a lot looser and easier to 'sploit. When our GM awarded us 200 something points to build characters, I spent OVER ONE HUNDRED FIFTY POINTS ON IMMUNITIES, and created a couple simple, versatile attacks with the remaining fifty points. The attacks I created were bad enough to warrant me getting "banned for life" from his games, but the immunities were "too over-the-top" for him. I calmly explained to him that he'd given us enough points to create a god, and so I did. He was not amused. (I can't help it if the other players in the group can't optimize their way out of a paper bag.)
I have to ask, if you spent 150 points on immunities, what the heck did you spend on stats? (Or is this BESM d20, which is, actually, for more exploitable than the Tri-Stat version... and for more screwy.)

If I ever see a BESM 3rd character set up like that, I'll just laugh. :)

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Re: The "Thing's Im not allowed to do while gaming" thread
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2009, 02:06:07 AM »
I have to ask, if you spent 150 points on immunities, what the heck did you spend on stats? (Or is this BESM d20, which is, actually, for more exploitable than the Tri-Stat version... and for more screwy.)

If I ever see a BESM 3rd character set up like that, I'll just laugh. :)

Nah, it was BESM tri-stat 2.0ish. We bought our stats and attributes using "separate points." My stats were only like, Body 5, Mind 7, Spirit 11. I saved a lot of points there, as I recall. Most everyone else wasted points buying all their stats up to 11, 11, 12 (GM only allowed one stat to be 12 per character). I wasn't too worried, since I bought immunity to ability damage and drain.

All my immunities were "Special Defenses" that cost something like 2-4 points to max out. Four points sounds about right, 'cause I think I had somewhere in the order of 40 immunities. Some effects, like dazzle/blindness and daze/confuse I counted as single immunities, and I was sure to describe everything in detail. I might be misremembering, though, because I built a similar god-character for another game. I don't remember if the game that got me banned for buying immunities was a 200- or 250-point game. This was ... five years ago at this point.
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Re: The "Thing's Im not allowed to do while gaming" thread
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2009, 04:28:31 PM »
Ah. I see.

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Re: The "Thing's Im not allowed to do while gaming" thread
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2009, 04:48:44 PM »
Ah. I see.

Oh, you're looking at me? Crap. You need to make continual Body checks of increasing difficulty or else you'll explode in a burst of pure awesome. Did I mention what my attack power was? Or that I created it after reading the "Death By Awesome" thread on the old CO boards?

In retrospect, it might've been that, instead of the monstrous list of immunities, that got be banned from that game.

edit: ...nah.
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Re: The "Thing's Im not allowed to do while gaming" thread
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2009, 11:09:17 PM »
Y'know, while the GM might have made a mistake by giving out too many points without placing restrictions on building, equal responsibility lies with the player to try to work with the group to make the game fun.

In my opinion, you're to blame for your being banned. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. And if you were that desperate to make a point to your GM about too many points and no restrictions, you could have simply told him. And I'd like to note that many CO builds are meant for theoretical game-breaking fun, not actual use in play.

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Re: The "Thing's Im not allowed to do while gaming" thread
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2009, 05:37:52 AM »
Y'know, while the GM might have made a mistake by giving out too many points without placing restrictions on building, equal responsibility lies with the player to try to work with the group to make the game fun.

In my opinion, you're to blame for your being banned. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. And if you were that desperate to make a point to your GM about too many points and no restrictions, you could have simply told him. And I'd like to note that many CO builds are meant for theoretical game-breaking fun, not actual use in play.

Well, he did want us to make god-characters. Presumably, he handed out so many points because he didn't expect us to be very good at it, and I somehow overstepped my bounds when my idea of a god-character didn't line up with his idea of a god-character. It's like playing one of the "power 5" in a D&D game where the DM tells you he's going to pull out all the stops, only to find out that he didn't know what he was getting into when he started, and it turns out everyone else is playing Tier 4.

I'm sorry this got into a debate. I thought my banning would be funnier if I provided some contextual information.

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Re: The "Thing's Im not allowed to do while gaming" thread
« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2009, 01:31:33 PM »
My Strongheart Halfling wizard is no longer allowed to open every conversation with his people's customary greeting, the MC Hammer dance.

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Re: The "Thing's Im not allowed to do while gaming" thread
« Reply #29 on: June 21, 2009, 07:27:28 PM »
I am not allowed to play an Anthropomorphic Bear named "Yogi".

I AM allowed to play a Winged Were-Tyranosaurus Rex Fire Giant Swordsage 1 in a game where the character creation rules were "10th level: racial HD don't count, only level adjustment and class levels."

I am not allowed to play the above character ever again, anywhere.
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Re: The "Thing's Im not allowed to do while gaming" thread
« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2009, 07:31:11 PM »
No longer allowed to browse the internet while trying to think of character or campaign ideas. Ever.
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Re: The "Thing's Im not allowed to do while gaming" thread
« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2009, 04:14:03 PM »
No longer allowed to browse the internet while trying to think of character or campaign ideas. Ever.

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Re: The "Thing's Im not allowed to do while gaming" thread
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2009, 04:30:09 PM »
No longer allowed to browse the internet while trying to think of character or campaign ideas. Ever.

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Go for the trope! To the pain!
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Re: The "Thing's Im not allowed to do while gaming" thread
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2009, 04:47:55 PM »
No longer allowed to browse the internet while trying to think of character or campaign ideas. Ever.

TVTropes win?
More like 4chan and Psionic [De]Motivators win. >_>
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Re: The "Thing's Im not allowed to do while gaming" thread
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2009, 05:18:57 PM »
More like 4chan and Psionic [De]Motivators win. >_>

Where are Psionic [De]Motivators?
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Re: The "Thing's Im not allowed to do while gaming" thread
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2009, 05:38:15 PM »
Did I mention what my attack power was? Or that I created it after reading the "Death By Awesome" thread on the old CO boards?
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« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2009, 05:42:51 PM »
More like 4chan and Psionic [De]Motivators win. >_>

Where are Psionic [De]Motivators?
Here and here. Though the latter is more general motivators, while the first is dedicated to psionics, specifically (but there's plenty of offtopic motivators there too). Honorable mention goes to Eberron Motivational Posters for making me want to play a Seer or Telepath, Sherlock Holmes-style.
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Re: The "Thing's Im not allowed to do while gaming" thread
« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2009, 07:41:20 AM »
No longer allowed to browse the internet while trying to think of character or campaign ideas. Ever.
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Re: The "Thing's Im not allowed to do while gaming" thread
« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2009, 07:56:35 AM »
Apparently I am no longer allowed to make a viable character in Champions  :banghead

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Re: The "Thing's Im not allowed to do while gaming" thread
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2009, 09:56:52 AM »
Did I mention what my attack power was? Or that I created it after reading the "Death By Awesome" thread on the old CO boards?
"Vegeta! What does the scouter say about Dither's power level?"

It's over nine thousand!

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