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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer, Part 2
« Reply #440 on: March 12, 2009, 03:27:45 PM »
Q141: Does the Adaptable Flanker Feat (PHB2) combined with a reach weapon technically allow you to flank a (medium) opponent on your own?

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No.  If you are counting as flanking from "across from where you are", you are no longer counting as flanking from "where you are".

Have fun parsing that sentence.  I decided to be nice and give you quotes.

That's pretty much the point; The feat is worded as such:

Quote from:  PHB2
As a swift action, you designate a single opponent as the target of this feat. When you are adjacent to the chosen target, you can choose to count as occupying any other square you threaten for purposes of determining flanking bonuses for you and your allies. You also occupy your current square for flanking an opponent.

So Q141 still stands...
If it works, that's be an interesting find, as it would mean an Elocater 4 could flank people all by himself...
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer, Part 2
« Reply #441 on: March 12, 2009, 04:18:06 PM »
Q141: Does the Adaptable Flanker Feat (PHB2) combined with a reach weapon technically allow you to flank a (medium) opponent on your own?

A 141

No.  If you are counting as flanking from "across from where you are", you are no longer counting as flanking from "where you are".

Have fun parsing that sentence.  I decided to be nice and give you quotes.

That's pretty much the point; The feat is worded as such:

Quote from:  PHB2
As a swift action, you designate a single opponent as the target of this feat. When you are adjacent to the chosen target, you can choose to count as occupying any other square you threaten for purposes of determining flanking bonuses for you and your allies. You also occupy your current square for flanking an opponent.

So Q141 still stands...
If it works, that's be an interesting find, as it would mean an Elocater 4 could flank people all by himself...
If the bonus lasts for a round or more, you should perfectly be able to flank by yourself as long as you could go from a square to its direct opposite.

Either way, not quite worth it.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer, Part 2
« Reply #442 on: March 12, 2009, 06:07:16 PM »
Q141: Does the Adaptable Flanker Feat (PHB2) combined with a reach weapon technically allow you to flank a (medium) opponent on your own?

A 141

No.  If you are counting as flanking from "across from where you are", you are no longer counting as flanking from "where you are".

Have fun parsing that sentence.  I decided to be nice and give you quotes.

That's pretty much the point; The feat is worded as such:

Quote from:  PHB2
As a swift action, you designate a single opponent as the target of this feat. When you are adjacent to the chosen target, you can choose to count as occupying any other square you threaten for purposes of determining flanking bonuses for you and your allies. You also occupy your current square for flanking an opponent.

So Q141 still stands...

Hmn sorry, didn't see that.  Other similar entries (such as the one for elocater) don't have that bolded text.  My bad for not checking.  Someone check the swashbuckler entry please.

Then A 141 becomes:

By RAW, yes.  Your DM may not like it though.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer, Part 2
« Reply #443 on: March 12, 2009, 06:47:38 PM »
Just got a pretty crazy idea;

Quote from: d20srd.org, movement, position and distance
Any creature can move through a square occupied by a creature three size categories larger than it is.

A big creature can move through a square occupied by a creature three size categories smaller than it is.

Quote from: d20srd.org, movement, position and distance
You can attack into your own square if you need to

Quote from: d20srd.org, combat modifiers
If a flanker takes up more than 1 square, it gets the flanking bonus if any square it occupies counts for flanking.

Q150: Does this mean a Huge creature could flank a small creature by just moving over it, or am I missing some vital rule that prevents this ridicule?

 :rollseyes

I'm starting to think this whole train of thought might've been better in a separate thread.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer, Part 2
« Reply #444 on: March 12, 2009, 07:09:10 PM »
Just got a pretty crazy idea;

Quote from: d20srd.org, movement, position and distance
Any creature can move through a square occupied by a creature three size categories larger than it is.

A big creature can move through a square occupied by a creature three size categories smaller than it is.

Quote from: d20srd.org, movement, position and distance
You can attack into your own square if you need to

Quote from: d20srd.org, combat modifiers
If a flanker takes up more than 1 square, it gets the flanking bonus if any square it occupies counts for flanking.

Q150: Does this mean a Huge creature could flank a small creature by just moving over it, or am I missing some vital rule that prevents this ridicule?

 :rollseyes

I'm starting to think this whole train of thought might've been better in a separate thread.

Nope, it can do better. It has more reach than it knows what to do with, so it could use Adaptative Flanker to flank any one creature in a 10-foot radius BY ITSELF. And yes, this gets more ridiculous as it gets more size increases!

Edited for clarity.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2009, 07:11:12 PM by Kuroimaken »
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer, Part 2
« Reply #445 on: March 12, 2009, 07:22:48 PM »
Yeah, but even without the feat, anything of Gargantuan size or larger can pretty much autoflank the entire party by just moving over them. Not that it's a big deal, Just another crazy little thing. :)
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer, Part 2
« Reply #446 on: March 12, 2009, 07:23:30 PM »
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer, Part 2
« Reply #447 on: March 12, 2009, 08:04:51 PM »
Q141: Does the Adaptable Flanker Feat (PHB2) combined with a reach weapon technically allow you to flank a (medium) opponent on your own?

A 141

No.  If you are counting as flanking from "across from where you are", you are no longer counting as flanking from "where you are".



Have fun parsing that sentence.  I decided to be nice and give you quotes.

That's pretty much the point; The feat is worded as such:

Quote from:  PHB2
As a swift action, you designate a single opponent as the target of this feat. When you are adjacent to the chosen target, you can choose to count as occupying any other square you threaten for purposes of determining flanking bonuses for you and your allies. You also occupy your current square for flanking an opponent.

So Q141 still stands...
If it works, that's be an interesting find, as it would mean an Elocater 4 could flank people all by himself...

hmmm...

Rogue + Kusari-Gama proficiency + Adaptable Flanker = less investment than Island of Blades, but no tasty Dex to damage.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer, Part 2
« Reply #448 on: March 13, 2009, 08:30:15 AM »
Q151 is there a source of onyx gems in the world largest dungeon around level 7 or so?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer, Part 2
« Reply #449 on: March 13, 2009, 12:41:46 PM »
Q152: Is the War Chanter's cap ability as broken as I think? Because it looks like a warforged one could sing constantly and break BaB to pieces[Edit:], allowing an ECL1 character to continuously have BaB of 15. This would allow Eternal Blade entry at ECL2!
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer, Part 2
« Reply #450 on: March 13, 2009, 12:47:05 PM »
Q153: Anyone know of any solid Psionic/ToB dual progression homebrew? I've been looking for one figuring it'd be the most obvious class ever and thus someone is bound to have made one, but I've failed to find anything.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer, Part 2
« Reply #451 on: March 13, 2009, 01:24:28 PM »
A153: there was one called the Diamond Mind Saint but i don't think it was ever finished in the thread. I have a copy that i finished but it is over powered since it was going into a silly game that people got 1 free template of any LA.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer, Part 2
« Reply #452 on: March 13, 2009, 04:15:41 PM »
Q154: What exactly is required to allow a character to target an invisible stalker without a miss chance?

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Invisible stalkers have an amorphous form. A see invisibility spell shows only a dim outline of a cloud, while a true seeing spell reveals a roiling cloud of vapor.
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Natural Invisibility (Su)
This ability is constant, allowing a stalker to remain invisible even when attacking. This ability is inherent and not subject to the invisibility purge spell.

So, Invisibility Purge does nothing.  True Seeing would seemingly allow you to target without a miss chance, I'm assuming, but what exact effect does See Invisibility have?  A "dim outline of a cloud" doesn't seem like it should be enough to able to be targeted with no miss chances, but that's just a personal impression.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer, Part 2
« Reply #453 on: March 13, 2009, 04:32:39 PM »
A154: I think anything that lets you see invisible creatures would let you target it without a miss chance. A "vague outline of a cloud"... is what it is. Gelatinous cubes have an amorphous form too, but that doesn't give you a miss chance when you attack them.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer, Part 2
« Reply #454 on: March 13, 2009, 06:23:48 PM »
Q154: What exactly is required to allow a character to target an invisible stalker without a miss chance?


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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer, Part 2
« Reply #455 on: March 13, 2009, 07:06:52 PM »
A146: A PLA can be augmented in any way available in the power description (up to the normal number of imaginary power points being expended).  The "may" is just an example.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer, Part 2
« Reply #456 on: March 13, 2009, 07:29:39 PM »
Q 155

If an epic-level Cleric uses Divine Power on himself to make his BAB equal to his Character Level, Would he gain a BAB over 20, and thus, extra iterative attacks? Divine Power itself doesn't state any max for BAB.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer, Part 2
« Reply #457 on: March 13, 2009, 07:51:02 PM »
A155: I think there's a clause somewhere that says you can never gain more that 4 attacks per round from your BAB. This may be in either the Monster Manual or the Epic Level handbook.

The SRD has this to offer:

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Base Attack Bonus

A base attack bonus is an attack roll bonus derived from character class and level or creature type and Hit Dice (or combinations thereof). Base attack bonuses increase at different rates for different character classes and creature types. A second attack is gained when a base attack bonus reaches +6, a third with a base attack bonus of +11 or higher, and a fourth with a base attack bonus of +16 or higher. Base attack bonuses gained from different sources, such as when a character is a multiclass character, stack.

Which does nothing but start a "It doesn't say you do"/"Well it doesn't say you don't either!" argument.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer, Part 2
« Reply #458 on: March 13, 2009, 08:14:47 PM »
A155: I think there's a clause somewhere that says you can never gain more that 4 attacks per round from your BAB. This may be in either the Monster Manual or the Epic Level handbook.

The SRD has this to offer:

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Base Attack Bonus

A base attack bonus is an attack roll bonus derived from character class and level or creature type and Hit Dice (or combinations thereof). Base attack bonuses increase at different rates for different character classes and creature types. A second attack is gained when a base attack bonus reaches +6, a third with a base attack bonus of +11 or higher, and a fourth with a base attack bonus of +16 or higher. Base attack bonuses gained from different sources, such as when a character is a multiclass character, stack.

Which does nothing but start a "It doesn't say you do"/"Well it doesn't say you don't either!" argument.
The SRD also has this, in the epic rules:
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However, the character does receive a cumulative +1 epic bonus on all attacks at every odd-numbered level beyond 20th, as shown on Table: Epic Save and Epic Attack Bonuses. Any time a feat, prestige class, or other rule refers to your base attack bonus (except for gaining additional attacks), use the sum of your base attack bonus and epic attack bonus.
It doesn't put an actual cap on BAB. So by my interpretation, Divine Power would be able to increase your BAB beyond 20. However, as per that quote, I guess it still wouldn't grant extra attacks. Oh well, it's still a pretty big bonus to hit (since I'm guessing it would stack with the epic attack bonus).
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Re: Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer, Part 2
« Reply #459 on: March 14, 2009, 07:54:13 AM »
Q 155

If an epic-level Cleric uses Divine Power on himself to make his BAB equal to his Character Level, Would he gain a BAB over 20, and thus, extra iterative attacks? Divine Power itself doesn't state any max for BAB.

Divine power was not worded with the epic progression rules in mind. So you have an interesting scenario where your bab (not including epic bab) is first raised to your character level, then epic bab is tacked on. For example, a lv30 cleric would get bab+35 (+30 bab from 30 class lvs, +5 epic bab). You are still limited to 4 attacks though (it is mentioned somewhere in the ELH, the rationale being to prevent the game from getting bogged down due to the need for multiple attacks that hit only on a natural 20).
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