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Cleric Persistable Group Buffs?
« on: January 27, 2009, 06:51:27 PM »
Has anyone made a Cleric DMM Persist list that was specifically about group buff spells?  I've got a blind Cleric character that buffs everyone else at the beginning of the day and then follows them around, and I'm trying to find good spells for that.  Right now he's got four levels of Cleric casting, but that will go up.  Still, while there's plenty of Persistant Cleric lists, few focus on group buffs.  Here's what I have so far (now edited to add other people's suggestions):

1:  Blessed Aim (PHB)
Obscuring Mist (PHB, works as a concealment thing at least)

2:  Elation (BoED)

3:  Lesser Mass Vigor (CD)
Prayer (PHB)

4:  Recitation (CD)

5:  Righteous Wrath of the Faithful (SpC)

6:  Vigorous Circle (CD)
Antilife Shell (PHB)

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Re: Cleric Persistable Group Buffs?
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2009, 07:25:02 PM »
Isn't there something that deals consistent negative energy damage? The party could all take Tome Tainted Soul...

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Re: Cleric Persistable Group Buffs?
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2009, 08:18:05 PM »
Antilife Shell (if they're all undead/construct/something ranged attackers)? :D
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Re: Cleric Persistable Group Buffs?
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2009, 09:31:09 PM »
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Re: Cleric Persistable Group Buffs?
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2009, 09:38:59 PM »
Prayer.
I like that... especially if you're sleeping in the room next to your enemies.
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Re: Cleric Persistable Group Buffs?
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2009, 12:29:00 AM »
Amusingly, I may end up using Antilife Shell if I get that high level... the character is a Cloistered Cleric 3/Walker in the Waste 2 right now.  But currently, Blessed Aim and Elation seem like the best options (though I'm also still using Obscuring Mist... it's a great defensive buff for this character).

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Re: Cleric Persistable Group Buffs?
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2009, 01:33:29 PM »
Amusingly, I may end up using Antilife Shell if I get that high level... the character is a Cloistered Cleric 3/Walker in the Waste 2 right now.  But currently, Blessed Aim and Elation seem like the best options (though I'm also still using Obscuring Mist... it's a great defensive buff for this character).

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So you go around with an Obscuring Mist around you all the time? That seems a bit odd. Is that really useful? I can see that it is a good spell for some situations, but all the time?
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Re: Cleric Persistable Group Buffs?
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2009, 01:56:02 PM »
So you go around with an Obscuring Mist around you all the time? That seems a bit odd. Is that really useful? I can see that it is a good spell for some situations, but all the time?

I've got a blind Cleric

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Re: Cleric Persistable Group Buffs?
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2009, 05:39:21 PM »
So you go around with an Obscuring Mist around you all the time? That seems a bit odd. Is that really useful? I can see that it is a good spell for some situations, but all the time?

I've got a blind Cleric

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Yeah, but what about his party? Do they stand around in it too, or stay away from him?
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Re: Cleric Persistable Group Buffs?
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2009, 11:06:30 PM »
For context, it's a Dark Sun campaign, so heat is a big danger.  Having a Cleric who's always walking around with Obscuring Mist provides shade and cooling for the party (at least until I become a Dry Lich, obviously).  It also provides concealment to the people around the edges while completely hiding the people in our party that aren't fighter types (and this being a somewhat unusual party, that's common... we've got a non combat librarian Archivist who pops out, uses Dark Knowledge and maybe throws out a buff, then retreats into the mist).

So basically, when we fight our shooters (a Scout 2/Factotum 3, a blasty psion/incarnate type, a shadowcraft mage/cleric) stay at the edges of the mist for partial concealment, our non combat types (my blind Cleric, the Archivist, the SCM when he's not attacking) hide fully in the mist where it's safer, and our melees run out and attack.  It's actually pretty darn useful all in all... and originally, it was just a defensive buff for me.  We can also have fun with Chain of Eyes... the Archivist or SCM can cast this on one of our front liners, then blast away from the safety of the mist using that for vision.

It's an unusual fighting style, and from a distance just looks like a bunch of melees fighting with some cloud following them, but it's worked so far.

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Re: Cleric Persistable Group Buffs?
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2009, 12:00:38 AM »
That's pretty awesome, now that you explain it...
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Re: Cleric Persistable Group Buffs?
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2009, 05:01:56 AM »
I have GOT to do that sometime....

how does your blindness balance out? blindfight? counts as two flaws? or just an extra drawback til you get persistant lorecall?
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Re: Cleric Persistable Group Buffs?
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2009, 10:48:48 AM »
Prayer.
I like that... especially if you're sleeping in the room next to your enemies.

While persisting Prayer works, it unfortunately won't work on new enemies, being a burst and not an emanation. So it'll be like bless with luck instead of morale.

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Re: Cleric Persistable Group Buffs?
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2009, 07:22:52 PM »
I have GOT to do that sometime....

how does your blindness balance out? blindfight? counts as two flaws? or just an extra drawback til you get persistant lorecall?

It's a flaw from the D&D Wiki.  http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Blind_(DnD_Flaw

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Re: Cleric Persistable Group Buffs?
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2009, 08:05:34 PM »
heh, it'd be fun to take the 5-foot radius blindsight feat with the bonus feat....  :D
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Re: Cleric Persistable Group Buffs?
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2009, 09:43:22 PM »
Oh, that would be downright cruel.  I haven't seen that one though... where's it from?

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Re: Cleric Persistable Group Buffs?
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2009, 10:15:41 PM »
SRD, divine section, so Deities and Demigods, IIRC. Non-divine feat.
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Re: Cleric Persistable Group Buffs?
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2009, 10:59:15 PM »
That would have been good... though this character really doesn't need to see.  His mount takes him where he wants to go, and I was quite intentionally playing a non melee character.  Our group is so big that it really speeds up combat to have a few characters whose actions are "on my initiative, I contemplate my naval" or "I pass my hand back and forth through the mist to see how it feels." 

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Re: Cleric Persistable Group Buffs?
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2009, 03:11:04 AM »
Hmm, now I want to play a blind warlock or DFA with a familiar who sits on his shoulder and points him in the proper direction to shoot.
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