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Re: Truly optimizing the rainbow warmage
« Reply #60 on: January 27, 2009, 05:58:25 AM »
I see mention of prestige bard, but nothing for prestige paladin yet?

Warmage 1/Rainbow Servant 10/Sacred Exorcist 1/Prestige Paladin 3/Silver Pyromancer 5 nets you Divine Grace and paladin spells (why doesn't prestige paladin give pally spells anyways?), plus a bunch of other goodies.

Prestige Bard, Paladin, and Ranger all give access to their respective spell lists (or at least the PHB set, with DM's option to add the rest) when you take them. It's part of the sidebar at the bottom of page 71.
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Re: Truly optimizing the rainbow warmage
« Reply #61 on: January 27, 2009, 05:59:16 AM »
Silver Pyromancer was just to go with the paladin idea and to get pally spells (oops, ninja'd). Silver burnination is also nice. But... I just noticed the last line in the spellcasting entry that specifically excludes warmages from adding the spells to their list. How dumb is that?

Oh whatever, just slap on devoted performer and stack Prestige Bard on top of Prestige Paladin... or something.
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Re: Truly optimizing the rainbow warmage
« Reply #62 on: January 27, 2009, 01:13:55 PM »
Still not seeing the advantage of Prestige Bard over regular Bard.
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Re: Truly optimizing the rainbow warmage
« Reply #63 on: January 27, 2009, 01:25:16 PM »
Still not seeing the advantage of Prestige Bard over regular Bard.

bard grants spellcasting while PrC Bard adds to existing casting.  So rather than having a second caster level to track and maintain, as well as pesky spells known and spells per day, you just get to beat up the bard and take all his stuff. You learn all his spells since they become part of your list and gain bard abilities all with your full casterlevel and normal spells per day.
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Re: Truly optimizing the rainbow warmage
« Reply #64 on: January 27, 2009, 08:08:44 PM »
I thought the rule was until you gained your first spellcaster enhancement, it didn't grant the benefits of the casting resources. Guess I had it wrong, thanks for the clarification.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
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Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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Re: Truly optimizing the rainbow warmage
« Reply #65 on: March 13, 2009, 05:43:00 PM »
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Re: Truly optimizing the rainbow warmage
« Reply #67 on: March 14, 2009, 09:35:26 AM »
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Battle Blessing means everything's quickened.
and no arcane spell failure, and we can DMM everything  :D
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