So talen, the point I am hearing here is 'all art has the same goal so it uses the same skills' is that what you mean?
No. I think that all art has the same goal. I also think there's a lot of overlap in the skill set.
As for clarification, do you have any reason to belive the earlier quote is true? Or do you just feel it.
That's not clarification. That's reiteration.
Gotcha.
May I chime in? Josh, your persona on the boards come across as an overbearing intellectual. You frame assumptions that support your views and that criticise deviation from it. Your obviously erudite and knowledgeable but you make debate into Monday Night Hockey brawl. And your opinions are interesting, but often I just don't feel like debating the point unless its unambiguously wrong IMO and needs to be discussed.
And yes, all that comes across as a jerk; a big brother thats 'educating' his idiot sibs.
That perspective I can definitely appreciate.
Generally I try to keep things as simple as possible, for the sake of clarity.
The problem with that is people often try to pull apart a tiny corner, without looking at the big picture.
Like with the whole "don't kick people out" issue. My core point is "It is wrong to treat people like shit." And instead we are embroiled in "are people associates or friends."
The other angle that I have learned to avoid is putting down too much information. I also generally try and remove the coloring statements, or rather I did. I assumed I would sound less like a jerk if I tried to speak as plainly as possible. Now I get the sense that that makes it incomprehensible.
There are also a number of other things
Like:
"You frame assumptions that support your views and that criticise deviation from it."
This statement proposes that I am making "assumptions" and that that is bad. And you also say "criticize deviation" like that is bad.
Assumptions are a standard part of any discussion. And I don't make assumptions fit my point. Rather my point fits the assumptions. As for criticizing deviation, yes. That is also pretty standard in a discussion. When things are incorrect I point that out. Thats how you win, except...
I can appreciate that you think my attitude is that of a jerky older brother. Mostly because that is pretty much the case. So my goal is then to take that image and rework things to bring is around to something more positive, like a cool older brother you want to emulate.
Good insight.
I had always been under the impression that the truth was the answer. Maybe it isnt.