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Guaging interest...
« on: January 22, 2009, 07:27:31 AM »
I liek a lot of the critters in MMII.  Well specifically I like the concept, not the horribly flawed execution.  But I can't use them because the entries are friggin' horrible.  SO I'm thinking of updating hte whole thing for 3.5.  Assuming anyone is interested.
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Re: Guaging interest...
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2009, 09:11:31 AM »
Sounds fun!
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Re: Guaging interest...
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2009, 11:43:04 AM »
I have to agree that the monsters themselves are cool.  Also, it's the only 3.0 Monster Manual left.

What are your intentions?  Rewriting the whole thing?  Just the monsters you like?

You might be able to come up with a relatively simple conversion chart or something.  I think the biggest thing you'd need to convert is damage reduction, and a few other miscelaneous things.
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Re: Guaging interest...
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2009, 02:21:03 PM »
It does however already have an update to 3.5 in the errata, you know this, yes?

I agree that doens't fix everything, but it might save you some work :)
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Re: Guaging interest...
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2009, 05:08:55 PM »
The leviathan isn't worth its super high CR.  One reverse gravity or a party of flyers will easily down it.
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Re: Guaging interest...
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2009, 05:19:40 PM »
AAAHHHH!!! 2 people misspelling gauging in 2 different thread titles.
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Re: Guaging interest...
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2009, 08:47:10 PM »
Quote from: BowenSilverclaw on January 22, 2009, 02:21:03 PM
It does however already have an update to 3.5 in the errata, you know this, yes?

Good point.

But they horribly nerfed my favorite from that book with that update errata.

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Re: Guaging interest...
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2009, 10:51:06 PM »
Please bhu! Do it justice! The asperi begs to be a PC race (even though it hasn't got hands...)


P.S. +1 on the spelling thing. Gauge is a weird word, but it is memorable in its weirdness. Gauging, like gouging. Both fun. Maybe.
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Re: Guaging interest...
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2009, 06:20:34 AM »
Quote from: SixthDeclension on January 22, 2009, 05:19:40 PM
AAAHHHH!!! 2 people misspelling gauging in 2 different thread titles.

In my defense at the time of morning I posted this  I as lucky to spell my own name correctly...
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Re: Guaging interest...
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2009, 06:21:36 AM »
Quote from: RobbyPants on January 22, 2009, 11:43:04 AM
I have to agree that the monsters themselves are cool.  Also, it's the only 3.0 Monster Manual left.

What are your intentions?  Rewriting the whole thing?  Just the monsters you like?

You might be able to come up with a relatively simple conversion chart or something.  I think the biggest thing you'd need to convert is damage reduction, and a few other miscelaneous things.


My intentions are to redo them all as the CR's are pretty well fucked.
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Re: Guaging interest...
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2009, 06:22:06 AM »
Quote from: BowenSilverclaw on January 22, 2009, 02:21:03 PM
It does however already have an update to 3.5 in the errata, you know this, yes?

I agree that doens't fix everything, but it might save you some work :)

Actually I did not.  I shall have to peek at this...
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Re: Guaging interest...
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2009, 09:41:46 AM »
Just out of curiosity, what are your plans for the Abyssal Mauler (I think that's the name).  IIRC, that's the monster everyone says DMs only use to kill players.

I think it's something like a CR 2.  For the most part, everything is in line with its CR except for its ability to do 2d8 damage to someone automatically if they drop them below 0 HP.  Basically, if you get dropped, statistically speaking, you die.

Higher CR or remove the ability?
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Totally true.  Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment.
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Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?"
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I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife.  A dull, rusty knife.  A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife.
Quote from: Seerow
Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: ****
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I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet.
Quote from: CryoSilver
When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!"
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Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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Re: Guaging interest...
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2009, 10:52:27 PM »
Dunno yet.  I used them once and I didn't like them.  I'd probably change the ability to something else since I nearly TPK'd a party that should've been able to handle them easily (but I didn't know about the books CR issues then).


My first concern is: If I do this is there a potential for getting the gameologists into trouble?  If that's a solid yes I prolly won't be doing it.  If I can post stuff without causing them trouble I'll start soon.  Probably put it in Inspiration Strikes or somewhere.
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Re: Guaging interest...
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2009, 09:26:30 AM »
Hmm...peekd thru the update booklet.  It seems okay, or at least better than it was (I haven't had a chance to look at it in detail).


I may still redo some.  I've been thinking of redesigning monsters for a horror campaign i wanna run
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Re: Guaging interest...
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2009, 10:25:03 AM »
Quote from: bhu on January 25, 2009, 09:26:30 AM
I may still redo some.  I've been thinking of redesigning monsters for a horror campaign i wanna run
Nice!  Do post any examples you have.  I always love ideas for horror games.

Do you have Heroes of Horror?  There are a few monsters in there, and they might give you ideas for how to modify some creatures.  Most of those monsters, it seems, are in there because they do something to trick a player's expectations.  Just making something work differently than the player expects can be enough to disconcern them.
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It is a shame stupidity isn't painful.
Quote from: StormKnight
Totally true.  Historians believe that most past civilizations would have endured for centuries longer if they had successfully determined Batman's alignment.
Quote from: Grand Theft Otto
Why are so many posts on the board the equivalent of " Dear Dr. Crotch, I keep punching myself in the crotch, and my groin hurts... what should I do? How can I make my groin stop hurting?"
Quote from: CryoSilver
I suggest carving "Don't be a dick" into him with a knife.  A dull, rusty knife.  A dull, rusty, bent, flaming knife.
Quote from: Seerow
Fluffy: It's over Steve! I've got the high ground!
Steve: You underestimate my power!
Fluffy: Don't try it, Steve!
Steve: *charges*
Fluffy: *three critical strikes*
Steve: ****
Quote from: claypigeons
I don't even stat out commoners. Commoner = corpse that just isn't a zombie. Yet.
Quote from: CryoSilver
When I think "Old Testament Boots of Peace" I think of a paladin curb-stomping an orc and screaming "Your death brings peace to this land!"
Quote from: Orville_Oaksong
Buy a small country. Or Pelor. Both are good investments.
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Re: Guaging interest...
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2009, 12:33:47 AM »
Yeah I have most all the 3.5 books.  I still need to get Dungeonscape, Cityscape, Exemplars of Evil, and Incarnum.


I'll start posting the spooky critters along with my silly ones in the Inspiratin boards.
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Re: Guaging interest...
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2009, 12:47:52 AM »
3.5 Scorpionfolk?  WANT!
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Re: Guaging interest...
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2009, 08:42:12 AM »
Well as thats the second reques I shall see what I can do :D
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Re: Guaging interest...
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2009, 12:57:14 PM »
Ahh, the 3.0 monster manual 2... so many broken toys in there for the discerning mage. I remember the Firbolg and its wonderfully abusable strength score. I remember the Death Knight template and the Titanic creature template (which did odd things with the summoning rules).

Good book, lotsa fun concepts in it. Get crackin'.
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Re: Guaging interest...
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2009, 11:00:23 PM »
The updates will be in the When Inspiration Strikes board along with my other stuff then.  Not sure which thread I'll put it in though, may have to make one...
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