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Re: How to shove it to beatsticks - A caster resource for not getting hit
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2009, 03:05:51 AM »
I can only find Blacklight as a third level spell, where is the ring and spell from?

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Re: How to shove it to beatsticks - A caster resource for not getting hit
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2009, 07:26:32 AM »
Thanks for the tips Phaedrus, I'll have to look into those as well for Tsherns campaign :P
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Re: How to shove it to beatsticks - A caster resource for not getting hit
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2009, 03:59:28 PM »
I can only find Blacklight as a third level spell, where is the ring and spell from?
Whoops. Sorry, it is No Light:blush It was in the Book of Vile Darkness, and I'm not sure if it has been reprinted.

Bowen, if you just buy the ring, I'll definitely be casting No Light in a lot of combats. That is, if you don't mind standing next to me... in melee, with a Consumptive Field running. :P

Hmm... maybe I should craft some Contingent spells of that, so I don't have to bother wasting an action on it. Would the price be 0.52x100=25 gp?  :D
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Re: How to shove it to beatsticks - A caster resource for not getting hit
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2009, 06:07:24 PM »

...sorry for the thread necromancy...
-Contingencies can save your hide as well. Wizard's and Clerics with Time domain can get it as a sixth level spell, which has no XP cost, only a focus. Stupendously good. The only real problem is that you can only have one contingency up at any given moment. What's that? Oh yeah, there's a feat Craft Contigency Spell in Complete Arcane. Let's you craft contingencies and there's no limit how many you can have active. All of a sudden, the sword of the charger turns into dust when your contingency goes off and a Disintegrate hits it. Too bad.

There is a limit to the number of Craft Contingent Spells you can have on you.

Complete Arcane, page 139:  "At any one time, a creature can bear a number of contingent spells equal to its Hit Dice.  Attempts to apply additional continent spells beyond this limit simply fail."

Also, from reading the example of disintegrating an attacker's sword, I initially thought that it implied that the disintegrate was the contingent spell (which wouldn't work)... but after thinking about it a bit, I suppose it would work if the contingent spell was Time Stop or Celerity or somesuch thing.

I appologize if I misunderstood, but if contingent-disintegrate was meant, here is why it wouldn't work:

PHB, page 213:  "The spell to be brought into effect by the contingency must be one that affects your person..."

Complete Arcane, page 139: "Once triggered, a contingent spell takes immediate effect upon the bearer (or is centered in the bearer's square if the spell affects an area)."

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Re: How to shove it to beatsticks - A caster resource for not getting hit
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2009, 12:48:02 AM »
Needs moar Mithril Twilight Chain Shirt.

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Re: How to shove it to beatsticks - A caster resource for not getting hit
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2009, 02:42:09 AM »
Needs moar Mithril Twilight Chain Shirt.

Waste of cash.

Feycraft Mithril Chain Shirt with Thistledown Suit.

Or

Githcraft Nimble Twilight Mithril Breastplate, if you mush have that 1 extra AC.

Also, if you're allowing a Feycraft Darkwood Buckler, wouldn't a Githcraft Mithril Heavy Shield bet better?

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Re: How to shove it to beatsticks - A caster resource for not getting hit
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2009, 04:03:21 PM »
Feycraft Mithrilmist Shirt(MIC) with Thistledown Suit.

even better imo, for concealment goodness

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Re: How to shove it to beatsticks - A caster resource for not getting hit
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2009, 09:43:05 PM »
Yeah, but Mithril Twilight Chain Shirt requires only core and a single special ability printed in more than one book, way more likely to see use.

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Re: How to shove it to beatsticks - A caster resource for not getting hit
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2010, 12:28:12 AM »
What about Ironguard, Lesser and of course it's big brother Ironguard (both from SC)?

Nothing worse to a fighter type than his nice, shiny metallic weapon being totally ineffective.

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Re: How to shove it to beatsticks - A caster resource for not getting hit
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2010, 12:36:23 AM »
What about Ironguard, Lesser and of course it's big brother Ironguard (both from SC)?

Nothing worse to a fighter type than his nice, shiny metallic weapon being totally ineffective.


Yes there is.  Shapechange into a Rust Monster.  The weapon is totally effective...for one hit.
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Re: How to shove it to beatsticks - A caster resource for not getting hit
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2010, 12:51:30 AM »
Rust Monster + Ironguard = ???

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Re: How to shove it to beatsticks - A caster resource for not getting hit
« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2010, 01:03:26 AM »
Rust Monster + Ironguard = ???

That would make for a very pitiful and sad creature.

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Re: How to shove it to beatsticks - A caster resource for not getting hit
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2010, 11:45:13 AM »
What about Ironguard, Lesser and of course it's big brother Ironguard (both from SC)?

Nothing worse to a fighter type than his nice, shiny metallic weapon being totally ineffective.


Yes there is.  Shapechange into a Rust Monster.  The weapon is totally effective...for one hit.
Most of the games I end up running, the melee characters tend to only need one hit. Leap attacking PA whorage, and all.
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Re: How to shove it to beatsticks - A caster resource for not getting hit
« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2011, 10:39:56 AM »
Bump.
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Re: How to shove it to beatsticks - A caster resource for not getting hit
« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2011, 10:43:52 PM »
Call me slow, but I didn't notice the last five or so posts before now. Anyone care to tell me where I can find all those pieces of armour?

Also, bumping this pile of crap?

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Re: How to shove it to beatsticks - A caster resource for not getting hit
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2011, 04:55:49 PM »
Tshern, you're slow.   :D  (just kidding)

Feycraft and Githcraft are in DMG2
Nimble, Twilight, and Mithrilmist Shirt (specific armor) are in MIC
Thistledown (armor material) is in RotW

(edit:  errr, correction, Thistledown is an armor material, but a Thistledown Suit is also an armor modification that can reduce ASF by 5%)
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Re: How to shove it to beatsticks - A caster resource for not getting hit
« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2011, 09:31:10 AM »
Call me slow, but I didn't notice the last five or so posts before now. Anyone care to tell me where I can find all those pieces of armour?

Also, bumping this pile of crap?

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Re: How to shove it to beatsticks - A caster resource for not getting hit
« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2011, 06:40:14 PM »
Shadow Cloak (DotU) also gives you a power similar to Abrupt Jaunt 3/day. Also +1 deflection bonus to AC.