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Re: Episode 36: Don't Kick People out of your game
« Reply #80 on: March 19, 2009, 07:58:25 PM »
You should be respectful of people because they deserve it.  Not because they reciprocate.

Respect must be earned, it is not an innate right.
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Re: Episode 36: Don't Kick People out of your game
« Reply #81 on: March 19, 2009, 07:59:56 PM »
You should be respectful of people because they deserve it.  Not because they reciprocate.

Respect must be earned, it is not an innate right.
That works if you consider respect a thing that costs to give, and not as something that improves you. I don't always get there, but I try.

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Re: Episode 36: Don't Kick People out of your game
« Reply #82 on: March 19, 2009, 08:02:50 PM »
Correct but people get the beneft of doubt when you first meet them and sometimes you salute the uniform not the man
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Re: Episode 36: Don't Kick People out of your game
« Reply #83 on: March 19, 2009, 08:07:54 PM »
It takes respect to get respect. Not in the "if you don't respect me I won't respect you" but rather, if I treat people with nominal respect I will establish that I am a person who believes in fair treatment.

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Re: Episode 36: Don't Kick People out of your game
« Reply #84 on: March 19, 2009, 08:09:54 PM »
I will agree that people get the benefit of the doubt when you first meet them, but I have no need of being respected by those I have no respect for and I have never saluted the uniform when I knew the man and didn't respect him.
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Re: Episode 36: Don't Kick People out of your game
« Reply #85 on: March 19, 2009, 08:11:27 PM »
I have a problem with your idea of being polite to other players. When I was a DM (back in 7th grade) I had no respect for my players, when I was a player (still 7th grade) I STILL didn't have respect for the players. Maybe this makes me a bad person, but if I am not shown respect I do not show respect.
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Re: Episode 36: Don't Kick People out of your game
« Reply #86 on: March 19, 2009, 08:13:22 PM »
I will agree that people get the benefit of the doubt when you first meet them, but I have no need of being respected by those I have no respect for and I have never saluted the uniform when I knew the man and didn't respect him.

the operative part is "when I knew the man"

I have spent my life working with groups of people others find repellant, by aproaching with firmness and respect I have established relationships with them that others are unable to.
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Re: Episode 36: Don't Kick People out of your game
« Reply #87 on: March 19, 2009, 08:18:32 PM »
I can't believe there isn't any caveman/astronaut or Gandalf/Yoda controversy yet.

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Re: Episode 36: Don't Kick People out of your game
« Reply #88 on: March 19, 2009, 08:34:21 PM »
I will agree that people get the benefit of the doubt when you first meet them, but I have no need of being respected by those I have no respect for and I have never saluted the uniform when I knew the man and didn't respect him.

the operative part is "when I knew the man"

I have spent my life working with groups of people others find repellant, by aproaching with firmness and respect I have established relationships with them that others are unable to.

Well to be honest I don't salute any uniforms, I was speaking more along the lines of people with power over me in general.
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Re: Episode 36: Don't Kick People out of your game
« Reply #89 on: March 19, 2009, 08:37:06 PM »
I get that.

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Re: Episode 36: Don't Kick People out of your game
« Reply #90 on: March 19, 2009, 08:40:04 PM »
I was just clarifying.   :p

As for the other part, that's a plus on your part but there's a difference between working with groups of people and choosing to game with them.  I refuse to game with people that I don't like because it lessens my enjoyment of the game.  Since the whole point of gaming is to enjoy myself, I see no reason to not do so to my fullest extent.
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Re: Episode 36: Don't Kick People out of your game
« Reply #91 on: March 19, 2009, 08:42:38 PM »
I think  youmight be limiting yourself. If you try to understand people many times you discover good things you night otherwise have missed. Be open and fearless, that's my advice.

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Re: Episode 36: Don't Kick People out of your game
« Reply #92 on: March 19, 2009, 09:07:09 PM »
We have different views on the value of being open and fearless.  I'll not drag this thread down any further with my particular personality quirks so I'll leave it at that.
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Re: Episode 36: Don't Kick People out of your game
« Reply #93 on: March 19, 2009, 09:17:27 PM »
I can't believe there isn't any caveman/astronaut or Gandalf/Yoda controversy yet.
Well, for starters, GET OUT OF THE PIRATE CAMP! Ninjas are far better.
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Re: Episode 36: Don't Kick People out of your game
« Reply #94 on: March 19, 2009, 09:24:38 PM »
I was just clarifying.   :p

As for the other part, that's a plus on your part but there's a difference between working with groups of people and choosing to game with them.  I refuse to game with people that I don't like because it lessens my enjoyment of the game.  Since the whole point of gaming is to enjoy myself, I see no reason to not do so to my fullest extent.
The 4th episode in the series is exactly this- how to choose the right group and head off the problems before you start.
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Re: Episode 36: Don't Kick People out of your game
« Reply #95 on: March 19, 2009, 10:54:20 PM »
I don't give the benefit of the doubt. I give respect when I am shown respect.
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Re: Episode 36: Don't Kick People out of your game
« Reply #96 on: March 19, 2009, 10:58:01 PM »
That sounds like a pretty good idea, Emissary. So good that maybe everybody should do it. Except if they did, who would respect whom?
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Re: Episode 36: Don't Kick People out of your game
« Reply #97 on: March 19, 2009, 10:58:37 PM »
Yeah, so that's wrong.  Don't do that.
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Re: Episode 36: Don't Kick People out of your game
« Reply #98 on: March 19, 2009, 10:58:55 PM »
I don't give the benefit of the doubt. I give respect when I am shown respect.
Why? And who has to show respect first? And how can you determine if you're shown respect? Do you go into a situation assuming you won't be respected?

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Re: Episode 36: Don't Kick People out of your game
« Reply #99 on: March 19, 2009, 11:02:13 PM »
We all posted at he same time we are not ganging up.

Please don't feel like that 
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