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Anders Rasmussen

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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #60 on: February 13, 2009, 12:13:14 PM »
I have usually read CO'ers on the Wiz-board arguing spellcasting as an natural ability. The reason being that when it would be usable with the polymorph-series...

I guess the argument goes the way it'smost CO-able...

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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #61 on: February 13, 2009, 05:41:45 PM »
I have usually read CO'ers on the Wiz-board arguing spellcasting as an natural ability. The reason being that when it would be usable with the polymorph-series...

I guess the argument goes the way it'smost CO-able...

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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #62 on: February 17, 2009, 09:15:51 PM »
I have usually read CO'ers on the Wiz-board arguing spellcasting as an natural ability. The reason being that when it would be usable with the polymorph-series...

I guess the argument goes the way it'smost CO-able...

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While it is debatable, i prefer my handbooks to dabble in practical optimization. Because if you tell your DM that you copy a wizard's spells per day because some guys debated that spells are an (Ex) ability on the internets, he will (if sane) tell you to shove it up yours.
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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #63 on: February 17, 2009, 11:19:42 PM »
Or you start encountering NPCs who (ab)use it as well :P

 
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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #64 on: February 17, 2009, 11:22:02 PM »
Or you start encountering NPCs who (ab)use it as well :P

 

Haha ^-^
That's even worse, because you are shoving stuff up your team-mates, too :p
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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #65 on: February 17, 2009, 11:23:30 PM »
You can't copy wizard's spells as you have to prepare them, and you gain them only for a minute...

Sorcerer is another case, though

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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #66 on: February 17, 2009, 11:28:58 PM »
Or you start encountering NPCs who (ab)use it as well :P

 

Haha ^-^
That's even worse, because you are shoving stuff up your team-mates, too :p
Which is the main reason I have to restrain myself in the Dispatching the Message game :P

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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #67 on: February 17, 2009, 11:31:38 PM »
Or you start encountering NPCs who (ab)use it as well :P

 

Haha ^-^
That's even worse, because you are shoving stuff up your team-mates, too :p
Which is the main reason I have to restrain myself in the Dispatching the Message game :P



You better watch it :p
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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #68 on: February 17, 2009, 11:34:43 PM »
Bah, the second Bowen does something to get us all killed, I plane shift away, leaving him to his own demise. :P You can come too, Dictum.
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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #69 on: February 17, 2009, 11:38:45 PM »
Thanks for the invitation :p
Where do you wanna go :P?
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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #70 on: February 18, 2009, 01:46:42 PM »
Yeah, thanks for the trust guys, really appreciate it :eh
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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #71 on: February 18, 2009, 03:20:06 PM »
You're welcome

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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #72 on: February 19, 2009, 09:16:02 PM »
Well someone claimed: Monster Manual 5 says Spellcasting is (Ex).  :eh :banghead
Didnt find it. Someone has an page number?


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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #73 on: February 19, 2009, 11:49:44 PM »
Look at the Hobgoblin Warsoul for an example (don't have a pagenumber handy). There's another Hobgob caster in there as wel as a Kuo Toa caster IIRC.

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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #74 on: February 20, 2009, 12:39:31 AM »
Kuo-Toa has a special quality "Divine Talent" That lets him cast spells as an 8th level evil cleric. The hobgoblin has the special quality "Arcane talent". There is no spellcasting (ex) in the entries.

Anyway, enough debate. I will assume that you cannot imitate abilities that are not specifically (ex) in their entries.
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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #75 on: February 28, 2009, 03:00:33 AM »
...Also, it's fun to note the AWESOME synergy with Spellthieves...

So, can someone elaborate on this?
Also, where is Magecraft from?

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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #76 on: February 28, 2009, 12:25:50 PM »
You can let a spell thief steal a spell from a factotum without that he loses it.

Magecraft is from something eberron, I think it is the player's guide...
Same place the artificer is...

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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #77 on: February 28, 2009, 12:51:01 PM »
If it's in the same book as the Artificer, then it's in the Eberron Campaign Setting...
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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #78 on: February 28, 2009, 12:59:34 PM »
That was where it was...

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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #79 on: August 16, 2009, 02:42:43 AM »
I've been looking for more ways to expand an int focus on my factotum so wanted to ask, are there any feats that change some skills to be modifed by intelligence? I think I remember one from Oriental Adventures but any beyond that?