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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #300 on: November 25, 2010, 06:42:24 PM »
was just checking because alot of people list things like grease as getting an opponent flatfooted while as far as i was aware the deal with that was if you have less than 5 ranks in balance you only lose your Dex to AC while balancing.
Grease forces you to be balancing. While balancing you are flatfooted unless you have 5 ranks in balance.

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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #301 on: November 25, 2010, 09:32:20 PM »
Attacking from Hiding makes the target flat-footed in regards to that target.

Rules Compendium, page 92:

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Hide (Dex; Armor Check Penalty)
You need cover or concealment to attempt a Hide check.
Total cover or total concealment usually obviates the need
for a Hide check, since nobody can see you anyway. Your
Hide check is opposed by the Spot check of anyone who
might see you.
You can move up to half your normal speed and hide at no
penalty. When moving at a speed greater than half but less
than your normal speed, you take a –5 penalty. You can take
a –20 penalty on your Hide check to hide while attacking,
running, or charging.

If someone is observing you, even casually, you can’t hide.
You can run around a corner or behind cover so that you’re
out of sight and then hide, but the others then know at least
where you went.
If your observers are momentarily distracted, you can
attempt to hide. While the others turn their attention
from you, you can attempt a Hide check if you can get
to a hiding place of some kind. The hiding place has to
be within 1 foot per rank you have in Hide. This check,
however, is made at a –10 penalty because you have to
move fast.
If you’re successfully hidden with respect to another
creature, that creature is flat-footed with respect to you.
That
creature treats you as if you were invisible (see page 76).

So, just go Invisible (+20 to Hide if you are moving) to negate the penalty.
Now it's a contest between his Spot and your Hide.

After all, there is a difference in just standing in front of the target and attack or trying actively not to be detected to aim for more vulnerable spots.

So, even  more reason for 2 levels of Swordsage:
Cloak of Deception.

Also, forcing Balance checks (grease, marbles), Sapphire Nightmare Blade, Flick of the Wrist, Underfoot Combat, having a friend with White Raven Strike and so on.
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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #302 on: December 05, 2010, 11:55:41 PM »
Question for the handbook creator. Why are there no Reserve feats listed on here?
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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #303 on: December 06, 2010, 12:14:35 AM »
Question for the handbook creator. Why are there no Reserve feats listed on here?
Because those only work on spells, not SLAs.

However they DO work with SLA feats. Including Supernatural Tranformation (turns SLAs into SuAs).
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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #304 on: December 06, 2010, 12:16:50 AM »
Question for the handbook creator. Why are there no Reserve feats listed on here?
Because those only work on spells, not SLAs.

However they DO work with SLA feats. Including Supernatural Tranformation (turns SLAs into SuAs).
Interesting. That'd mean it'd get past SR.
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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #305 on: December 06, 2010, 12:28:36 AM »
Question for the handbook creator. Why are there no Reserve feats listed on here?
Because those only work on spells, not SLAs.

However they DO work with SLA feats. Including Supernatural Tranformation (turns SLAs into SuAs).
Interesting. That'd mean it'd get past SR.
They can do that anyway. This way costs a feat, but it can be done well before level 11.
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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #306 on: December 06, 2010, 01:08:21 AM »
Question for the handbook creator. Why are there no Reserve feats listed on here?
Because those only work on spells, not SLAs.

However they DO work with SLA feats. Including Supernatural Tranformation (turns SLAs into SuAs).
Interesting. That'd mean it'd get past SR.
They can do that anyway. This way costs a feat, but it can be done well before level 11.
Yeah, but it costs points.
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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #307 on: December 06, 2010, 02:40:17 PM »
Factotum SLAs are class abilities, not innate, as required for supernatural transformation. Does not work.
Supernatural Transformation: One of your innate spell-like abilities becomes a supernatural ability.

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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #308 on: December 06, 2010, 03:07:59 PM »
Factotum SLAs are class abilities, not innate, as required for supernatural transformation. Does not work.
Supernatural Transformation: One of your innate spell-like abilities becomes a supernatural ability.

Has "innate" ever been defined? Playing the devil's advocate here, I could argue that a class ability is as innate as a racial ability.
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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #309 on: December 06, 2010, 03:19:05 PM »
Factotum SLAs are class abilities, not innate, as required for supernatural transformation. Does not work.
Supernatural Transformation: One of your innate spell-like abilities becomes a supernatural ability.

Has "innate" ever been defined? Playing the devil's advocate here, I could argue that a class ability is as innate as a racial ability.

By CustServ. Which means it may or may not count.


To be honest, that feat is largely useless for most MM creatures with a playable LA. The ones that have SLAs usually have Personal-range or Buff abilities. The feat itself is made for Warlocks.


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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #310 on: December 09, 2010, 01:12:03 PM »
Factotum SLAs are class abilities, not innate, as required for supernatural transformation. Does not work.
Supernatural Transformation: One of your innate spell-like abilities becomes a supernatural ability.

Has "innate" ever been defined? Playing the devil's advocate here, I could argue that a class ability is as innate as a racial ability.

I believe "innate" is generally used to mean "not added by any outside source, such as spells, items, auras, or any temporary benefit."  Internal, if you will.  That would make class abilities count.  But I'm not totally sure about that.

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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #311 on: December 09, 2010, 01:24:53 PM »
Factotum SLAs are class abilities, not innate, as required for supernatural transformation. Does not work.
Supernatural Transformation: One of your innate spell-like abilities becomes a supernatural ability.

Has "innate" ever been defined? Playing the devil's advocate here, I could argue that a class ability is as innate as a racial ability.

I believe "innate" is generally used to mean "not added by any outside source, such as spells, items, auras, or any temporary benefit."  Internal, if you will.  That would make class abilities count.  But I'm not totally sure about that.

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"Innate" as used by the feat "Supernatural Transformation" refers to Spell-like abilities gained from Race ... it has been covered by the FAQ

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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #312 on: December 09, 2010, 10:16:58 PM »
Ah, good to know.  Does that include templates?  One would hope so...

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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #313 on: December 09, 2010, 10:41:42 PM »
Ah, good to know.  Does that include templates?  One would hope so...

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An inherited template is certainly a part of your race.  Maybe on acquired.
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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #314 on: December 09, 2010, 10:45:25 PM »
I wonder if the Collar of Umbral Metamorphesis or Polymorph give you temporary inherent abilities...

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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #315 on: December 10, 2010, 05:19:30 AM »
Eyes of the Avoral from BoED grants a +8 racial bonus to Spot.  :lol

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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #316 on: December 11, 2010, 02:23:47 AM »
Become a psion from a psionic race. Supernatural Transformations (psionics) = No SR, no XP.

Alternately, psionic mind flayer + telepath.
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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #317 on: January 03, 2011, 05:37:55 AM »
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Imperious Command DotU: This feat is so good that it will devastate any opponent that is not immune to fear effects. First of all, a cowering foe will be unable to act, thus denying your opponents of firepower by using this feat alone. Because this feat makes a demoralized opponent to cower in the first round and be shaken afterwards, you (by using the fearsome enhancement or cunning surge) or your allies can coup-de-grace demoralized targets. This feat is very good along with the Never Outnumbered skill trick.

Cowering does not make them eligible for CdG by itself. It's saddening, I know. Imperious Command is still awesome, it's just not stab-you-in-the-face awesome.
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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #318 on: January 03, 2011, 05:56:25 AM »
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Imperious Command DotU: This feat is so good that it will devastate any opponent that is not immune to fear effects. First of all, a cowering foe will be unable to act, thus denying your opponents of firepower by using this feat alone. Because this feat makes a demoralized opponent to cower in the first round and be shaken afterwards, you (by using the fearsome enhancement or cunning surge) or your allies can coup-de-grace demoralized targets. This feat is very good along with the Never Outnumbered skill trick.

Cowering does not make them eligible for CdG by itself. It's saddening, I know. Imperious Command is still awesome, it's just not stab-you-in-the-face awesome.

That was already pointed out some pages ago I think, although the guide hasn't been updated in a while.
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Re: The Factotum's Handbook
« Reply #319 on: January 03, 2011, 06:20:05 AM »
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Imperious Command DotU: This feat is so good that it will devastate any opponent that is not immune to fear effects. First of all, a cowering foe will be unable to act, thus denying your opponents of firepower by using this feat alone. Because this feat makes a demoralized opponent to cower in the first round and be shaken afterwards, you (by using the fearsome enhancement or cunning surge) or your allies can coup-de-grace demoralized targets. This feat is very good along with the Never Outnumbered skill trick.

Cowering does not make them eligible for CdG by itself. It's saddening, I know. Imperious Command is still awesome, it's just not stab-you-in-the-face awesome.

That was already pointed out some pages ago I think, although the guide hasn't been updated in a while.

Ah, didn't see that. I assumed that because it was still in the guide it had been missed.
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