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Factotum's Brains over Brawn
« on: October 31, 2008, 11:15:25 PM »
Simple question really, but I wasn't sure and it's a bit obscure.  Does the Factotum's Brains Over Brawn ability apply to initiative checks?  They're certainly dexterity based, but it seems a bit questionable.

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Re: Factotum's Brains over Brawn
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2008, 11:17:50 PM »
Quote from: SRD 3.5
Initiative Checks

At the start of a battle, each combatant makes an initiative check. An initiative check is a Dexterity check. Each character applies his or her Dexterity modifier to the roll. Characters act in order, counting down from highest result to lowest. In every round that follows, the characters act in the same order (unless a character takes an action that results in his or her initiative changing; see Special Initiative Actions).
It would seem so.
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Re: Factotum's Brains over Brawn
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2008, 11:22:21 PM »
That's basically what I was asking, as I thought that quote might be somewhere but wasn't sure.

...Damn.  That's incredible.

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Re: Factotum's Brains over Brawn
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2008, 11:42:07 PM »
yep. it's probably the best -passive- ability of the class.
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Re: Factotum's Brains over Brawn
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2008, 11:55:57 PM »
Spiffy. I'll take two.
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Re: Factotum's Brains over Brawn
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2008, 12:05:48 AM »
As a skill-lover, I'd go as far as saying it's one of the best passive abilities of all classes. :D
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Re: Factotum's Brains over Brawn
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2008, 12:21:58 AM »
No kidding. I never even thought about Initiative. Nice one guys.
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Re: Factotum's Brains over Brawn
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2008, 05:30:41 AM »
Nice Find! :clap
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Re: Factotum's Brains over Brawn
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2008, 05:53:55 AM »
Awesome!
Now i want to start a factotum handbook  :smirk
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Re: Factotum's Brains over Brawn
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2008, 10:11:50 AM »
That is an amazing find. :cheers
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Re: Factotum's Brains over Brawn
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2008, 10:14:37 AM »
Quote from: Dictum Mortuum on November 01, 2008, 05:53:55 AM
Awesome!
Now i want to start a factotum handbook  :smirk
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Re: Factotum's Brains over Brawn
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2008, 10:30:03 AM »
Quote from: Dictum Mortuum on November 01, 2008, 05:53:55 AM
Awesome!
Now i want to start a factotum handbook  :smirk

WotC had one, right?

Edit: found it.... made by JJ: linky
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Re: Factotum's Brains over Brawn
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2008, 10:33:45 AM »
Yes.
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Re: Factotum's Brains over Brawn
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2008, 10:35:18 AM »
http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=791436JanusJones did it.  I like Dictum's 'color coded for your convenience' style.
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Re: Factotum's Brains over Brawn
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2008, 01:45:57 PM »
Well of course, i know of jones's work. To be honest i was going to get most of the ideas from that thread (of course with links to the original guide etc). But Jones seems to have abandoned that handbook and factotums are such an interesting class! Someone has to do a more in-depth version of that guide.
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Re: Factotum's Brains over Brawn
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2008, 01:58:53 PM »
It seems surprisingly many people hadn't noticed it ?!

@Dictum: we're always in favor of more of your guides. :D
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Re: Factotum's Brains over Brawn
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2008, 05:15:51 PM »
I'm actually kind of surprised this isn't common knowledge.
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Re: Factotum's Brains over Brawn
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2008, 05:31:24 PM »
Quote from: Ubernoob on November 01, 2008, 05:15:51 PM
I'm actually kind of surprised this isn't common knowledge.
I think it's one of those easily overlooked things.
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Re: Factotum's Brains over Brawn
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2008, 06:36:31 PM »
The question was one of technicality (it allows for dexterity checks and dexterity related skill checks, but it doesn't say dexterity based checks in general, so the question was which one it was).

And yes, the current Factotum handbook is horribly undercomplete.  I mean, feats aren't even complete.  I'd make one myself, but I keep getting distracted from it. 

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Re: Factotum's Brains over Brawn
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2008, 07:32:08 PM »
You mean there's feats for a factotum to take besides font of inspiration!!!!!
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