Telflamm Shadowlord via Jaunter?

[skydragonknight]

jaunter gives hide and ms as skills as well.

Nice. So the skill requirements for Shadowlord have been shot 100 times over. Good to know.
And we can get the knowledge requirement in 4 levels or less.

What's next? We have the prefix to Shadowlord down a few nice possibilities. So its just the suffix that we should get down a few good options.

Edit: At the moment we have the virtual feat Gloves of the Balanced Hand for ITWF, which means two offhand attacks so we don't need any more in that feat tree since we get two attacks for one feat and an item.

Things that should increase are:
BAB/# of attacks on a full attack.
Damage per attack
Quicker/more teleportation abilities.

Increasing the last one looks good on paper, but the first two shouldn't be ignored if you want a practical build. Craven helps...but can we do better still?

[rubberduck]

i'm currently trying to mix jaunter/shadowlord pounce with tome of battle shadowjumping
but no matter what i make up something is always missig

a feat or bab most of the time
(unless you want to wait for shadowpouncing)

trying to make it work on level 12

i also had the idea to start of as a binder3 with improven binding to get knowledge the planes and sneak from the vestige

but than i kinda lack some feats
oh well never give up! back to work

[fil kearney]

spellthief1/SAfighter1/warlock6/TSL4 is the only way I know of off hand to get pounce by 12.
everything else is pounce by 13.

I have been joyfuly corrected elow... way to go!

[carnivore]

Barbarian(Alt class feature: Complete Champion) Sacred Totem: Lion Totem..... Pounce @ 1st lvl

 

[Tshern]

Talking about Shadowpounce, I am afraid.

[carnivore]

what are the reqs for Telflamar Shadowlord?

nevermind:

Prestige Class: Telflammer Shadowlord
Location: Unnaproachable East p. 36
Requirements:
Race: Have the shadow-walker template or appropriate spellcasting ability (see below)
Alignment: Any non-good
Skills: Hide 10 ranks, Move Silently 10 ranks
Feats: Blindfight, Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack
Spellcasting: If not a shadow-walker, must be able to cast dimension door as a spell or spell-like ability or be able to shadow jump.
Special: Sneak Attack +2d6
Special: The character must be able to take regional feats from Thesk.


with Flaws.... it might be possible


 

[rubberduck]

 you know that he knows that...
i know it that you know it...

oh gosh i start to feel dizzy...

well no matter what i tried it just wont happen before level 13

my best idea so far is:

planar ranger1             for knowledge the planes, bab skillpoints
cobrastrke monk2         dodge and mobility
Sneak atack fighter3     2d sneak and fullbab
jaunter3                      cool stuff and dimension door spell like for shadowlord
teflammer shadowlord4  shadowpounce(at level 13)
jaunter+1
teflammer shadowlord+1 just love shadow discorporation cant help it
whatever X

the best whatever in my opinion would be a swordsage as you start with a high initator level so you can select most of the shadowblink shadowjaunt etc stuff

that way you should be able to get 3 fullattacks per round while teleporting around

[rubberduck]

what are the reqs for Telflamar Shadowlord?

 

hide 10 move silent 10
dodge
mobility
spring attack
blind fight
must be able to use dimension door as spell or spelllike OR shadwowalker template

jaunter needs:
springattack(and thus bab 4)
dodge
mobility
knowledge the planes4

[carnivore]

from what i have seen ... the limiting factor is the Skill reqs.... must be 7th lvl for them..... everything else can be gotten earlier

if you could qualify @7th.....

xxxx 7/ Telflamar Shadowlord 4... it would be a Minimum of 11th lvl Shadowpouncing



Human

Ranger 1/ Swordsage 5/ Jaunter 1/ Telflamar Shadowlord 4

[rubberduck]

noone said faster...

its just a good synergy since it gives the needed dimension door
and all the class skills and has the same requirements
and well the abilities work good with pounce...
swap places with allies and enemies etc...

[carnivore]

you also could do it like this:

Human

Fighter 4/ Jaunter 3/ Telflamar Shadowlord 4


feats:
1st lvl: Dodge, Mobility(Fighter Bonus), Martial Study(Shadow Blink)(Human Bonus)
2nd lvl: Weapon Finnesse
3rd lvl: Martial Stance(Assassin Stance)
4th lvl: Spring Attack
6th lvl: Blindfight
9th lvl: Shadow Blade

great for a Dex focused build..... which Jaunter is(Dex focused)

Dex to Attack
Dex to Damage
Dex to AC
Dex to Initiative
Dex to Ref saves
Dex for Transport abilities

 

[fil kearney]

Ranger 1/ Swordsage 5/ Jaunter 1/ Telflamar Shadowlord 4

Wow nice work carnivore!

Fighter 4/ Jaunter 3/ Telflamar Shadowlord 4


feats:
1st lvl: Dodge, Mobility(Fighter Bonus), Martial Study(Shadow Blink)(Human Bonus)
2nd lvl: Weapon Finnesse
3rd lvl: Martial Stance(Assassin Stance)
4th lvl: Spring Attack
6th lvl: Blindfight
9th lvl: Shadow Blade

this one lacks the knowledge prereqs for jaunter, and the shadow blink is not available until IL3....which is non ss level 6.
Hmm...
fighter6/jaunter1/TSL4
1st lvl: x, Dodge(Fighter Bonus), Educated(Human Bonus)
2nd lvl: Blindfight
3rd lvl: mobility
4th lvl: Spring Attack
6th lvl: Martial Study(Shadow Blink), Martial Stance(Assassin Stance)
9th lvl: Shadow Blade

The only way this will work is if Feat "x" s a feat that makes hide and move silet class skills for fighter, but weapon finesse must be sacreficed.


ranger swordsage is much more eleant.  kudos and Fu.

[carnivore]

thanks....

opps ..... forgot the knowledge prereqs, but i would use Knowledge Devotion(it gives a single Knowledge Skill as a Class Skill)... and use Shadow Jaunt as well since it is lower level....

 

[rubberduck]

you kinda.. still miss the spellcasting requirement