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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #700 on: May 29, 2009, 06:35:47 PM »
If you have a way to use this as a melee attack you could combine this with a bloodstorm dragoon (dragoon tossed repeatedly by a bloodstorm blade).

Actually, I was thinking about combining it with the million attacks linked in my sig. Just need the text to see exactly how it's stated and what I may have to change to accommodate.

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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #701 on: May 29, 2009, 06:38:19 PM »
I don't think that would work - an atlatl is a two-handed weapon.
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #702 on: May 29, 2009, 07:03:16 PM »
Also, does Splitting work on Atlatls?
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #703 on: May 31, 2009, 10:12:23 AM »
I don't think that would work - an atlatl is a two-handed weapon.

A Tiny one, however, would be light, and therefor roughly dagger sized, so should work with master thrower's palm throw...

Also, does Splitting work on Atlatls?
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Activation: The splitting ability of a ranged weapon (must
be a bow, crossbow, arrow, or bolt)
only functions if its wielder
has the Precise Shot feat.

Emphasis mine.

That would ruin it though.

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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #704 on: May 31, 2009, 01:41:59 PM »
Also, does Splitting work on Atlatls?
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #705 on: May 31, 2009, 02:33:15 PM »
Also, does Splitting work on Atlatls?
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Activation: The splitting ability of a ranged weapon (must
be a bow, crossbow, arrow, or bolt)
only functions if its wielder
has the Precise Shot feat.

Emphasis mine.
Could you enchant a Balista with splitting?  :twitch
Why not?

It's only 3d8 base, I don't really see the problem.
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #706 on: May 31, 2009, 03:32:37 PM »
Also, does Splitting work on Atlatls?
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Activation: The splitting ability of a ranged weapon (must
be a bow, crossbow, arrow, or bolt)
only functions if its wielder
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Emphasis mine.
Could you enchant a Balista with splitting?  :twitch
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #707 on: May 31, 2009, 03:42:27 PM »
Also, does Splitting work on Atlatls?
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Activation: The splitting ability of a ranged weapon (must
be a bow, crossbow, arrow, or bolt)
only functions if its wielder
has the Precise Shot feat.

Emphasis mine.
Could you enchant a Balista with splitting?  :twitch
Splitting AND Exit Wound.

Sure, not bad, but there really isn't that much difference from a 'normal' bow or crossbow, that was kinda my point :)
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #708 on: May 31, 2009, 04:20:42 PM »
It's all in the visuals. Damage and effectiveness are all well and good, but sheer awesome counts for a lot too!
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It's also a little cold because of that.
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #709 on: May 31, 2009, 04:35:31 PM »
Here something I thought of, eternal wand of Wood Shape and Feather Token (Tree), you can make anything you need, and turn the exess into 10' poles which you sell for profit...

Battering ram, club, missing gear, bridge, building material, small wooden fort... it's like a cheaper wood only version of the magnifisant pigment...
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #710 on: May 31, 2009, 04:44:35 PM »
It's all in the visuals. Damage and effectiveness are all well and good, but sheer awesome counts for a lot too!
Agreed :)
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #711 on: May 31, 2009, 07:06:01 PM »
Here something I thought of, eternal wand of Wood Shape and Feather Token (Tree), you can make anything you need, and turn the exess into 10' poles which you sell for profit...

Battering ram, club, missing gear, bridge, building material, small wooden fort... it's like a cheaper wood only version of the magnifisant pigment...

I thought all druids did this. All the time. I know mine does. Ironwood makes them even better. Ever forge a weapon on a wooden anvil? Someone in my party has.

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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #712 on: May 31, 2009, 07:14:43 PM »
Here something I thought of, eternal wand of Wood Shape and Feather Token (Tree), you can make anything you need, and turn the exess into 10' poles which you sell for profit...

Battering ram, club, missing gear, bridge, building material, small wooden fort... it's like a cheaper wood only version of the magnifisant pigment...

I thought all druids did this. All the time. I know mine does. Ironwood makes them even better. Ever forge a weapon on a wooden anvil? Someone in my party has.

I always like Wood Shape over knock... the rogue can't unlock this lock, wood shape the door so the lock falls out, wood shape the chest to see if it's a mimic(a great use for the spell even if you don't have the wand...)
A player once asked me if there was any way to make a Tarrasque more evil... 3 sessions later he was stoned with D20s as the PC led an exidus out of the path of a Dire Tarrasque of Legendary Wonder.

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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #713 on: May 31, 2009, 07:25:42 PM »
Here something I thought of, eternal wand of Wood Shape and Feather Token (Tree), you can make anything you need, and turn the exess into 10' poles which you sell for profit...

Battering ram, club, missing gear, bridge, building material, small wooden fort... it's like a cheaper wood only version of the magnifisant pigment...

I thought all druids did this. All the time. I know mine does. Ironwood makes them even better. Ever forge a weapon on a wooden anvil? Someone in my party has.

I always like Wood Shape over knock... the rogue can't unlock this lock, wood shape the door so the lock falls out, wood shape the chest to see if it's a mimic(a great use for the spell even if you don't have the wand...)
That assumes that you're dealing with a lot of wooden doors.

And if the door is made of wood, just have your local beatstick make the DC 25 max strength check to break it.  If they take 20 and have a racial bonus, it's gauranteed to work.
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #714 on: May 31, 2009, 07:28:55 PM »
Here something I thought of, eternal wand of Wood Shape and Feather Token (Tree), you can make anything you need, and turn the exess into 10' poles which you sell for profit...

Battering ram, club, missing gear, bridge, building material, small wooden fort... it's like a cheaper wood only version of the magnifisant pigment...

I thought all druids did this. All the time. I know mine does. Ironwood makes them even better. Ever forge a weapon on a wooden anvil? Someone in my party has.

I always like Wood Shape over knock... the rogue can't unlock this lock, wood shape the door so the lock falls out, wood shape the chest to see if it's a mimic(a great use for the spell even if you don't have the wand...)
That assumes that you're dealing with a lot of wooden doors.

And if the door is made of wood, just have your local beatstick make the DC 25 max strength check to break it.  If they take 20 and have a racial bonus, it's gauranteed to work.
Or you point and click, and the door becomes a cart to help you haul your illgotten gains.
A player once asked me if there was any way to make a Tarrasque more evil... 3 sessions later he was stoned with D20s as the PC led an exidus out of the path of a Dire Tarrasque of Legendary Wonder.

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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #715 on: May 31, 2009, 08:09:37 PM »
Or you point and click, and the door becomes a cart to help you haul your illgotten gains.
Why waste spell slots?  Besides, isn't there something like a 25% chance that the moving parts won't work?
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #716 on: May 31, 2009, 08:13:27 PM »
Point and click means he's using a wand. Worst case scenario, the door's still gone.

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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #717 on: June 02, 2009, 06:44:28 AM »
Remember the old trick of using a spell component pouch to get the minor artifact required for Apocalypse from the Sky, since artifacts have no price listed? That was a fun one, huh?

Well, turns out that, say, a few ounces of the Tarrasque's flesh or Boccob's brain don't have listed prices either. Enter Absorb Mind and Absorb Strength, both from BoVD.
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #718 on: June 02, 2009, 05:40:54 PM »
Strictly abusive, but still funny.


...Unless some illithid sourcebook somewhere has prices for brains.

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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #719 on: June 02, 2009, 05:43:50 PM »
...Unless some illithid sourcebook somewhere has prices for brains.

Might be in the BoVD...

EDIT: Jep, humanoid brain and yugoloth's brain are both listed (4 cp and 5 gp respectively)
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