« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2008, 04:58:11 PM »
JoAT was most recently published in the CAdv on Jan. 2005, while the PHBII, containing Bardic Knack was published in May 2006. Bardic Knack is therefore more recent than JoAT. Bardic Knack's rulings would therefore take precedence.
ToB came out after WoL, does that mean, to you, the book about the rules on legacy items should be ignored when talking about legacy rules?
Core: You cannot use a trained-only skill unless you have one rank in it (note, one rank, not a 1/2 rank).
PHBII: You cannot use Bardic Knack on a trained-only skill unless you have one rank in it (see above).
JoaT: 1. You have a 1/2 rank in every skill 2. Said 1/2 rank allows you to use trained-only skills (an exception).
You two can duke it out from here. I have no interest in listening to this any more.
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Tiers explained in 8 sentences. With examples!
[spoiler]Tiers break down into who has spellcasting more than anything else due to spells being better than anything else in the game.
6: Skill based. Commoner, Expert, Samurai.
5: Mundane warrior. Barbarian, Fighter, Monk.
4: Partial casters. Adapt, Hexblade, Paladin, Ranger, Spelltheif.
3: Focused casters. Bard, Beguiler, Dread Necromancer, Martial Adapts, Warmage.
2: Full casters. Favored Soul, Psion, Sorcerer, Wu Jen.
1: Elitists. Artificer, Cleric, Druid, Wizard.
0: Gods. StP Erudite, Illthid Savant, Pun-Pun, Rocks fall & you die.
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