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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #60 on: October 23, 2008, 11:39:54 AM »
Few things: You can take the average on any HD past #1 (#1 is maxed). The everlasting rations are probably around, so just jot them down. I'd overall tweak the WBL down, but I know that can bugger game balance.
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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #61 on: October 25, 2008, 07:06:50 AM »
I'll take the average for the HD then. Being squishy isn't what I'm after, and I like averages. :)

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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #62 on: October 27, 2008, 12:09:38 PM »
But squishy toys are fun :)
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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #63 on: October 27, 2008, 09:50:51 PM »
Alright, so I've decided that Canere is a native Hanian who recently returned from earthbound travels.
Would either of you be interested in forming an army for a crusade against evil? Canere would be willing to take the lead on such a venture, if you guys are willing to be my lieutenants.
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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #64 on: October 28, 2008, 05:03:35 AM »
So long as you're fine with a fear monger who either glamers for black fullplate and wears a white featureless mask or glamers a scholar's robe and wears glasses as a lieutenant, sure. The first form is reserved for frontlines fighting whereas the second is essentially the strategist (whose scholarly robes just so happen to feel very solid and chain-like).

EDIT: I've got a build that carries me to level 20 now. Never knew that I'd find something that would match Ira's theme so well, but nevertheless I'll be taking levels in Master of Masks. The poor BAB and d6 HD make me sad, but good progressions in Ref and Will as well as the amazing utility of the masks makes it a solid choice. Plus, it ends up working well with the idea of wearing a mask as an intimidate tool. So all in all it looks like this:

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LA +1
1:  Lion Totem Barbarian 1
2:  Zhentarim Soldier Fighter 1
3:  Zhentarim Soldier Fighter 2
4:  Zhentarim Soldier Fighter 3
5:  Zhentarim Soldier Fighter 4
6:  Zhentarim Soldier Fighter 5
7:  Zhentarim Soldier Fighter 6
8:  Zhentarim Soldier Fighter 7
9:  Uncanny Trickster 1
10: Uncanny Trickster 2 (Z.S. Fighter 8)
11: Uncanny Trickster 3 (Z.S. Fighter 9)
12: Master of Masks 1
13: Exotic Weapon Master (Uncanny Blow)
14: Warshaper 1
15: Master of Masks 2
16: Master of Masks 3
17: Master of Masks 4
18: Master of Masks 5
19: Master of Masks 6

Uncanny Trickster's required to get perform as a class skill for Master of Masks (fortunately it grants progression in previous class levels) and I end up bumping back swift action demoralizes to level 11 (12 with the LA considered), but it works. EWMaster for some delicious x2s to Str bonuses for wielding a bastard sword in two hands (this is a grey area - it can be wielded as a martial weapon in two hands, but I took the EWP to specifically be able to wield it in one hand... so here's where I'm questioning it's validity), Warshaper 1 for natural weapons on the go and immunities to stunning and critical hits (pity I won't be taking this awesome PrC any further).

Still can't understand why someone would take the other Trick-happy PrC over Uncanny Trickster. Even the BAB gain is questionable, seeing as Uncanny Trickster grants class progression on top of what it gives.
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I feel like Yoshimitsu now.
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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #65 on: October 28, 2008, 11:24:01 AM »
So, we have a Hanian crusade for good sweeping across the lands?
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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #66 on: October 28, 2008, 02:49:56 PM »
Unless the Hunter of Shadows disagrees, yes.
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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #67 on: October 29, 2008, 03:17:09 AM »
I'll second that. While Ira's altruistic interests namely involve uncovering hidden truths and exposing lies, she's perfectly fine working with comrades who will help her achieve her goal.

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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #68 on: October 29, 2008, 11:11:54 AM »
Alright. Look for a kick off some time today then.
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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #69 on: October 29, 2008, 02:26:30 PM »
I'm flattered ;)
But no, I don't mind a crusade for good.
Follows my original though of a character following someone with higher ideals than him.
As long as I'm not getting shunned for using Fivefolded Breath of Tiamat during a battle for our cause, I'm in.
Though it would be a looong time until that's a problem.

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the most effective optimization is the one you can actually get away with.  :smirk

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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #70 on: October 31, 2008, 04:10:27 PM »
Next hour or two should see the start. I've just been slow, and had busier work than expected yesterday.
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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #71 on: November 02, 2008, 06:27:20 PM »
In case you were wondering, I just threw Endure Exposure at you :D
[Spoiler]
Quote from: Runestar
the most effective optimization is the one you can actually get away with.  :smirk

Quote from: Vinom
(A group of nerds are called a murder because like crows we are anti-social, like shiny things, and often squack at each other over nothing for hours)

I often have to remind people not to underrate divination.  The ability to effectively metagame without actually metagaming beats the ability to set things on fire more times than not.
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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #72 on: November 17, 2008, 12:39:01 PM »
Giving you guys a kick in the pants. Where would you like to get headed?
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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #73 on: November 17, 2008, 05:49:02 PM »
I think anywhere with said historian would be nice. A bard could help with our search. :)

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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #74 on: November 17, 2008, 11:12:14 PM »
I agree. Either snooping around in town for someone that knows someone, setting out on a loooong hike to find one or something along those lines. Good opportunity to get "The Trip(TM)" started.

For an example of such a "The Trip(TM)", look at LotR.
Or Eddings Mallorean/Tamuli-books.
Or pretty much anything Eddings, when I think about it.
[Spoiler]
Quote from: Runestar
the most effective optimization is the one you can actually get away with.  :smirk

Quote from: Vinom
(A group of nerds are called a murder because like crows we are anti-social, like shiny things, and often squack at each other over nothing for hours)

I often have to remind people not to underrate divination.  The ability to effectively metagame without actually metagaming beats the ability to set things on fire more times than not.
[/quote]
[/spoiler]

Binder? You're Welcome

Zceryll makes Binders go from tier 3 to tier 2.
Cagemarrow is a Genius

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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #75 on: November 18, 2008, 11:50:44 AM »
More likely to be a trip, since I would assume Carnere has more or less exhausted what is available in the immediate area. Seems the type. So, a trip to where? :)
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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #76 on: November 18, 2008, 01:07:53 PM »
Where ever my Skaldic Knowledge check takes me, my dear Strat.
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Forte Lulz, Chaotic EVIL Bard bent on world domination;
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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #77 on: November 18, 2008, 01:27:03 PM »
To infinity and beyond!
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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #78 on: February 02, 2009, 05:44:50 PM »
It may be a shameful prod, but all the new PCs are joining the evil parties. Where's the love for some good around here? :P

Seriously though, how are we going to prepare for the eventual shitstorm when said parties meet up with the sole good party? :lmao (In otherwords, what should be prioritize right now? I personally think getting followers is probably the right thing to do.)

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Re: King Arthur
« Reply #79 on: February 02, 2009, 06:59:04 PM »
I could snag Leadership in a couple levels...
Or we all could.... :D
I think this research will enable us to have the classic quality over quantity that good always has...
Provided it yields results.
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Forte Lulz, Chaotic EVIL Bard bent on world domination;
Canere Potentia, to sing of power.
Aralaxax, Warforged Osteomancer, Machines are my people, I wield bones as other wield swords.
Randall Gray, she's not sexually confused, honest!
Zion "I can make followers, but why bother when people line up for me?"
Currently DMing: Real Men Use Their Hands, World's Largest Dungeon
"If you can pretend to be a half-orc barbarian or a dwarf wizard then you can pretend to be an alpha male."-Ninjarabbit
"The hotel shop only had two decent books, and I'd written both of them."-Douglas Adams
"It's funny how the Earth never opens up and swallows you when you want it to." Xander Harris, Buffy the Vampire Slayer