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Optimize That!
« on: October 05, 2008, 07:08:22 PM »
Okay, check this.

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what do you think a bout a vampiric illumian soulknife/reaping mauler, with the changes i suggested to lower the Lvl Adj for being vampiric.

Some guy sent me this on my facebook. He wanted to play this character in my campaign. Naturally, I refused, on the grounds that it's too broken (broken weak, that is), and I got a good chuckle out of it. My response was this:

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There are three things wrong with that build. One of them is Soulknife. The second is Reaping Mauler. The third is the gigantic level adjustment that a vampire would have, which hurts what you'd be trying to accomplish with the reaping mauler.

I'm just going to flat out tell you that that build is perhaps the worst build I've ever seen. There is absolutely no synergy between those classes, and what's worse is that all of the classes (and the race) all suck big nuts. Especially soulknife. All it gets is a sword that does nothing.

But now I want you guys to have a go at this build. Whoever makes the best build with a minimum of 3 levels of reaping mauler and a few levels of soulknife at least wins. Hopefully we'll all get some lulz out of this. This should be funny. Okay, everyone, go!

Who knows, we could make this into a game. Someone posts a concept, someone else posts a build, so that it becomes a contest between who can screw the others over more.

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Re: Optimize That!
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2008, 07:19:56 PM »
Not making a build, but I have been told by my old group* that Soulknife is broken because it gives you 200k gp worth of equipment for free.

Just thought I'd share...


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* This is the same group who thinks:
1. Psions are broken because they get to choose any of 4 energy types with one blasting power rather than one per spell like the wizards/sorcerers.
2. Mystic Theurges are broken because a Cle 5/Wiz 5/MT 10 gives you 15 levels of wizard AND 15 levels of cleric at level 20 when normally it would take you 30 levels to get the same.
3. Horizon Walker is broken because it gets resist 20/Fire and Cold and Dimension Door at will.
4. Eldritch Knight is broken because it gets full BAB and advance caster levels (same argument as MT above).
5. Spiked Chain is broken. In Core only. With a Bard.
6. Many more such fails, too many to list.

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Re: Optimize That!
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2008, 07:22:27 PM »
Can you use any of the soulknife "fixes"?
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Re: Optimize That!
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2008, 10:23:21 PM »
What were the changes he proposed for vamp.

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Re: Optimize That!
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2008, 10:32:25 PM »
Ouch. I could maybe make something out of a Soulknife/Reaping Mauler, but that Vampire restiction is too much. 8 levels completely lost.

I could make a pretty mean Vampire/Soulknife or Vampire Reaping Mauler-(grapple-o-neg-levels)...but all three at once...
It always seems like the barrels around here have something in them.

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Re: Optimize That!
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2008, 11:08:43 PM »
you cant make anything out of the reaping mauler...
if you want to be good at grapling you need to be able to increase your size
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as soon as you get large or larger...
you loose the clever wrestling feat which is a preq. to reaping mauler
so you lose all abilities

and by the way the abilites of reaping mauler are...
though they sound cool and fun
CRAP !

if you wanna grapple and strangle stuff take:
black blood cultist
grapple someone and rip, tear and rend his flesh till he is knocked out then you can simply snap his neck(coup de grace) with your bite attack. how cool is that?!

black blood cultist, UNLIKE reaping mauler, is made of style and win
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Re: Optimize That!
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2008, 11:13:22 PM »
agree. I was just pointing out there's at least a little bit of grappling/vampire synergy.
It always seems like the barrels around here have something in them.

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Re: Optimize That!
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2008, 12:13:52 AM »
black blood cultist
Just to fuck around with his players my brother actually put 8 levels of that on a half dragon kraken for lols.  Lion totem barbarian of course.
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Re: Optimize That!
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2008, 12:15:26 AM »
eh, it's better on a were-moose
It always seems like the barrels around here have something in them.

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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2008, 12:36:30 AM »
eh, it's better on a were-moose
Just think about the improved rapidstrike.
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Re: Optimize That!
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2008, 06:37:17 AM »
eh, it's better on a were-moose
Only if he has a little were-squirrel buddy...
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Re: Optimize That!
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2008, 06:40:19 AM »
Okay, it can be optimized if we ignore the classes.  How about Spell Stitch him, giving him Animate Dead, Animate Dread Warrior, Awaken Undead, and Explosive Runes as stitched spells?  It should make him a very potent necromancer.

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