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Workaround for racial favored class
« on: September 24, 2008, 08:46:52 PM »
Is there a feat or something that will let my teifling have swordsage as a favored class?  I really don't want to go human or half elf.  Working on a monk\rogue type, but my DM pretty reliably turns out the lights when we venture forth by torchlight. Plus, I really want the boosts to int + dex.  Can anyone think of anything? I'll post the build later.  Thanks!

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Re: Workaround for racial favored class
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2008, 10:21:37 PM »
There is a feat that allows that, I think. Extra Favoured Class?

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Re: Workaround for racial favored class
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2008, 10:25:40 PM »
There is a feat that allows that, I think. Extra Favoured Class?

No such feat from WotC sources from what I know. I know there are feats thta make Cleric a favored class in addition to another (all of them from Sandstorm, Stormwrack, or Frostburn), but no such feat for Swordsage.


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Re: Workaround for racial favored class
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2008, 10:28:24 PM »

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Re: Workaround for racial favored class
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2008, 10:32:26 PM »
Hmm... I don't recall that in UA. Will have to read it some more...

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Re: Workaround for racial favored class
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2008, 10:36:34 PM »
I gotta post faster.

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Re: Workaround for racial favored class
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2008, 12:25:17 AM »
I submit that everyone should gain that as a bonus feat, an infinite number of times, with a clause saying it may not be swapped.

No, that's not more complicated than dropping favored classes, why do you ask? :P

And yeah, I think that that's the best thing we can do. For some reason, the designers don't think favored classes are silly.
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Re: Workaround for racial favored class
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2008, 01:07:39 AM »
All dwarves are fighters, any who aren't are penalized!

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Re: Workaround for racial favored class
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2008, 05:59:02 AM »
While we're at it, let's impose level limits dependent on race/class combination...
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Re: Workaround for racial favored class
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2008, 02:45:02 PM »
Why not drop races altogether and convert racial abilities into class levels?
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Re: Workaround for racial favored class
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2008, 03:10:07 PM »
Why not drop races altogether and convert racial abilities into class levels?
Actually, in 3.5 this would make a lot more sense than it did where it came from, provided racial classes didn't have exp penalties for multiclassing.  You could be a dwarf and never take a level in dwarf, you just wouldn't be a particularly dwarfy dwarf.  Or you could take 20 levels in it and be the ultimate expression of what it means to be a dwarf.  And it'd allow you to do mixed races really easily.

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Re: Workaround for racial favored class
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2008, 04:19:04 PM »
So, are you going to post the build, so we can see what we can do, or did you get enough info alread?

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Re: Workaround for racial favored class
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2008, 01:41:39 PM »
While we're at it, let's impose level limits dependent on race/class combination...

Mark my words, in 5th edition they'll be crawling back to level limits!  Halfling clerics over level 7?  Preposterous!

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Re: Workaround for racial favored class
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2008, 06:13:08 PM »
As an aside, I seem to think I'm the only one who actually likes racial favored classes. While there are SIGNIFICANT issues when you bring in new base classes, I think the favored class helps balance races a bit. Each race has their own strengths, and the favored class: any entry on humans is one of their strengths. Of course, the bonus feat and skill point help too. :P But dwarves don't favor Barbarian (for example), making your beefy dwarf build need to worry about dipping barbarian for pounce, and XP penalties and suchlike.

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Re: Workaround for racial favored class
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2008, 10:01:41 PM »
While we're at it, let's impose level limits dependent on race/class combination...

Mark my words, in 5th edition they'll be crawling back to level limits!  Halfling clerics over level 7?  Preposterous!

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Re: Workaround for racial favored class
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2008, 10:15:47 PM »
I don't like favored classes myself, especially as humans already have plenty going for them as a race.

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Re: Workaround for racial favored class
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2008, 03:48:22 AM »
Not to derail but wait the UA buyoff doesn't apply to templates? I thought it applied to all LA changes... Could someone make sure - that really worries me.
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Re: Workaround for racial favored class
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2008, 04:01:40 AM »
Since when? Buyoff applies to all LA AFAIK.