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Re: PrCs that look fun, but are a bit... lacking
« Reply #100 on: October 06, 2008, 09:17:57 PM »
Force Missile Mage.
You enter the PrC, you feel awesome and cool, the picture reminds you of a inquisitor-esqe character that feels kick-ass.
When you leave it, you realized you took 5 levels in a PrC which only benefit was improving a lvl 1 spell.
Oh, and gaining a free Quickened Shield.
....
Now, if I could just find some class feature/metamagic/other that'll turn Magic Missile into a de-buff spell then I'd be happy.
Daze, nauseated, immobilized, slowed or something. Just auto-hitting with minor force damage isn't all that hot, unless your campaign is about eradicating etheral creatures.

First I thought about Fell Drain, but no sane DM would let it stack on a single target, regardless of if it's RAW or not.
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Re: PrCs that look fun, but are a bit... lacking
« Reply #101 on: October 07, 2008, 03:54:46 AM »
First I thought about Fell Drain, but no sane DM would let it stack on a single target, regardless of if it's RAW or not.

Our DM did it.

He made a guy with Magic Missile Wand (CL5), Metamagic Grip, and Fell Drain feat, and before too long our OA Sumurai got 3 negative level.

The guy kept spamming MM across 30 feet square hole until Sumurai kindly removed his head off!

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Re: PrCs that look fun, but are a bit... lacking
« Reply #102 on: October 07, 2008, 03:07:52 PM »
Imaskari Vengeance Taker.  Given the hoops you need to jump for reasonable entry, the Target of Vengeance ability isn't up to par, especially with the reduced casting rate.
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Re: PrCs that look fun, but are a bit... lacking
« Reply #103 on: October 07, 2008, 03:19:50 PM »
Force Missile Mage.
You enter the PrC, you feel awesome and cool, the picture reminds you of a inquisitor-esqe character that feels kick-ass.
When you leave it, you realized you took 5 levels in a PrC which only benefit was improving a lvl 1 spell.
Oh, and gaining a free Quickened Shield.
....
Now, if I could just find some class feature/metamagic/other that'll turn Magic Missile into a de-buff spell then I'd be happy.
Daze, nauseated, immobilized, slowed or something. Just auto-hitting with minor force damage isn't all that hot, unless your campaign is about eradicating etheral creatures.

First I thought about Fell Drain, but no sane DM would let it stack on a single target, regardless of if it's RAW or not.
I'm not sure about this, but could you use the class feature that adds an element to your missiles to qualify it for the Flash Frost metamagic feat or something?
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Re: PrCs that look fun, but are a bit... lacking
« Reply #104 on: October 08, 2008, 04:24:18 AM »
Force Missile Mage.
You enter the PrC, you feel awesome and cool, the picture reminds you of a inquisitor-esqe character that feels kick-ass.
When you leave it, you realized you took 5 levels in a PrC which only benefit was improving a lvl 1 spell.
Oh, and gaining a free Quickened Shield.
....
Now, if I could just find some class feature/metamagic/other that'll turn Magic Missile into a de-buff spell then I'd be happy.
Daze, nauseated, immobilized, slowed or something. Just auto-hitting with minor force damage isn't all that hot, unless your campaign is about eradicating etheral creatures.

First I thought about Fell Drain, but no sane DM would let it stack on a single target, regardless of if it's RAW or not.

I use Fell Drain magic missiles quite a bit, and yes, my DM and I agreed to keep it from stacking on a single target.  That said, whenever we fight multiple opponents, they get level drained immediately.  Then the save-or-die spells come out to play.

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Re: PrCs that look fun, but are a bit... lacking
« Reply #105 on: October 12, 2008, 06:13:46 PM »
Not a PrC, but a class: the Divine Mind.

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Re: PrCs that look fun, but are a bit... lacking
« Reply #106 on: April 14, 2010, 07:18:51 AM »
Hows this for thread necromancy?   :D

Force Missile Mage.
You enter the PrC, you feel awesome and cool, the picture reminds you of a inquisitor-esqe character that feels kick-ass.
When you leave it, you realized you took 5 levels in a PrC which only benefit was improving a lvl 1 spell.
Oh, and gaining a free Quickened Shield.
....
Now, if I could just find some class feature/metamagic/other that'll turn Magic Missile into a de-buff spell then I'd be happy.
Daze, nauseated, immobilized, slowed or something. Just auto-hitting with minor force damage isn't all that hot, unless your campaign is about eradicating etheral creatures.

First I thought about Fell Drain, but no sane DM would let it stack on a single target, regardless of if it's RAW or not.
I'm not sure about this, but could you use the class feature that adds an element to your missiles to qualify it for the Flash Frost metamagic feat or something?
I just started to consider the viability of a caster that focuses on magic missile.  I came up with evoker 5/Elemental Savant 1/Force Missile Mage 5/ES 2-10 (probably not optimal, but looks fun nonetheless), with focus in either Electricity (coupled with Born of Three Thunders), or Cold (with Flash Frost Spell).

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Re: PrCs that look fun, but are a bit... lacking
« Reply #107 on: April 14, 2010, 08:31:28 AM »
I can't believe this didn't occur to me earlier.
SPELLFIRE CHANNELER.

Worst offender. Spellfire on the whole is absolutely worthless unless you have a pet warlock or something else to power you up between fights, then it's broken-ish once a fight until you get to high levels when it is meh.
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As for awful Prcs... just Solar Channeler.  Lose caster levels to gain the ability to spend a turn attempt each round to become weaker.  Seriously WTF?
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Re: PrCs that look fun, but are a bit... lacking
« Reply #108 on: April 14, 2010, 12:20:57 PM »
Not a PrC, but a class: the Divine Mind.

Should have been a Prestige Class. I'm wanting to write that one up as a Psion/Divine caster dual-advancement that has class features (ala Ultimate Magus).


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Re: PrCs that look fun, but are a bit... lacking
« Reply #109 on: April 14, 2010, 06:24:37 PM »
Eberron Campaign Setting's Master Inquisitive :c

Wonderful fluff, but I feel like a straight Factotum does everything better.
Contacts seem neat, but I haven't actually considered how they would affect gameplay.

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Re: PrCs that look fun, but are a bit... lacking
« Reply #110 on: April 14, 2010, 06:53:39 PM »
Eberron Campaign Setting's Master Inquisitive :c

Wonderful fluff, but I feel like a straight Factotum does everything better.
Contacts seem neat, but I haven't actually considered how they would affect gameplay.
I will agree with you there. Factotum's seem to be made for playing as Sherlock Holmes.

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Re: PrCs that look fun, but are a bit... lacking
« Reply #111 on: April 15, 2010, 01:15:37 PM »
Thief Acrobat might be better if it had +2d6 Sneak Attack spread throughout.
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