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Men and Women.. Problems/ Bias/ Observations, etc.
« on: August 16, 2008, 12:26:25 PM »
Split from the "What turns you on" thread-- take all of the general discussion about gender here. 



What turns me on? My wife... more so now then when I first fell for her.
 
Sadly, for reasons unknown to me, it does not seem to go both ways these days.    :(



Drop her. 

Alternately, go into couples counseling, perhaps your wife isn't as hard-headed as my wife.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if she's not attracted to you anymore, that means she's going to leap in bed with the first person she IS attracted to.  Best to break it up while you still have hand.
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Re: What turns you on?
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2008, 05:09:10 PM »
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if she's not attracted to you anymore, that means she's going to leap in bed with the first person she IS attracted to.  Best to break it up while you still have hand.
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Re: What turns you on?
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2008, 05:13:07 PM »
Oh noes! :P
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Re: What turns you on?
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2008, 10:24:10 PM »
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if she's not attracted to you anymore, that means she's going to leap in bed with the first person she IS attracted to.  Best to break it up while you still have hand.
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No, just walked in to an empty house after work two years ago.  I've been where Shadowhowler is now, if she's not attracted to him, the marriage is over.  Maybe his SO will be willing to work and find out why she's not attracted to him, maybe she's has hardheaded as, well, pretty much every woman I've been with ever.  Either way, that's a pretty big warning sign.
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Re: What turns you on?
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2008, 12:19:06 AM »
Sexual attraction comes mostly from hormones. Considering how much women can have their system fucked up with the various birth control stuff (hell even food), it might be just that. Talk to her and try to figure out what happens

Count, no matter how many (bad) experience you had with womens, remember that it is still the minority and a minority from a small group most likely. Stop generalization as if you had fucked half the womens of this planet. Your own experiences are exactly that, your own experiences, not some broad law of women habits.

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Re: What turns you on?
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2008, 01:22:18 AM »
Hey, all I know that although sex isn't the only component of a healthy relationship, not having sex IS a sign that something's wrong.

My therapist told me that, so it's not my word and my experiences.
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2008, 01:20:17 PM »
Banor, you are speaking as if problem people comprise a small amount of people as a whole.
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Re: What turns you on?
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2008, 01:45:05 PM »
Sexual attraction comes mostly from hormones. Considering how much women can have their system fucked up with the various birth control stuff (hell even food), it might be just that. Talk to her and try to figure out what happens

Count, no matter how many (bad) experience you had with womens, remember that it is still the minority and a minority from a small group most likely. Stop generalization as if you had fucked half the womens of this planet. Your own experiences are exactly that, your own experiences, not some broad law of women habits.

 
 
While I agree that it sounds as tho the good Count has burn burned before, and that experince has left him bitter and perhaps jaded... he does have a point. :(
 
I would not even mention it as a problem if I had not already past the stage where I tried to talk to her and figure it out... I did... LONG ago and many times. It's not a new thing... it's been a steady decline over a 2 year period... and all my attempts to talk to her about the problem have lead me to a run around, and angry reaction, or some other form of obfuscation.
 
No, in this case at least, the Count is right, and the lack of sharred intamate desire is a HUGE problem and a major warrning sign.
 
I just have not figure out what to do about it yet... as I am a pathetic, hopeless romantic who is still deeply in love with his wife... we seems to have somehow morphed into my best friend/roomate with *NO* desire at all for physical intamicy with me. :(
 
 
Anyway, I don't wanna derail a thread thats ment to be about HAPPY things... my bad...

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Re: What turns you on?
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2008, 03:40:00 PM »
Banor, you are speaking as if problem people comprise a small amount of people as a whole.

They aren't a small portion of population in general for sure, but there is no way that your own experience be described as the inevitable truth.

I don't say that there is no problem, just not that because she doesn't want to have sex anymore that she is "going to leap in bed with the first person she IS attracted to". That is what I was considering as a exaggerated generalization.

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Re: What turns you on?
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2008, 03:56:07 PM »
I'd say the woman is more likely to be motivated by money than sex. Ergo, she'll go boink the first person she meets that makes more than you.
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Re: What turns you on?
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2008, 10:05:52 PM »
All I know is that my ex told me that the guy she left me for makes a lot of money, and is about six inches taller than me and used to play football.

I told her if he ever stuck his nose on my turf I was going to knock the everloving crap out of him, but in actuality I should perhaps be thanking him.

You know why divorces are so expensive?  Because they're worth it.  :P
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Re: What turns you on?
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2008, 11:25:14 AM »
That is an interesting explanation. I still haven't yet worked out what the purposes of that legal contract are, other than allowing the female to rob you without legal repercussion at any time.
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Re: What turns you on?
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2008, 09:00:41 PM »
That is an interesting explanation. I still haven't yet worked out what the purposes of that legal contract are, other than allowing the female to rob you without legal repercussion at any time.
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Re: What turns you on?
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2008, 03:05:04 AM »
That is an interesting explanation. I still haven't yet worked out what the purposes of that legal contract are, other than allowing the female to rob you without legal repercussion at any time.

 
To be fair... the 'legal contract' would allow a man to rob a women just as easily. What matters is who has the most money... not what sex you are.

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Re: What turns you on?
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2008, 04:48:11 AM »
That is an interesting explanation. I still haven't yet worked out what the purposes of that legal contract are, other than allowing the female to rob you without legal repercussion at any time.

 
To be fair... the 'legal contract' would allow a man to rob a women just as easily. What matters is who has the most money... not what sex you are.

You have to remember that, on average, a woman makes 77 cents to every dollar a man makes (2005 figure).  :couch
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Re: What turns you on?
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2008, 04:57:46 AM »
That is an interesting explanation. I still haven't yet worked out what the purposes of that legal contract are, other than allowing the female to rob you without legal repercussion at any time.

 
To be fair... the 'legal contract' would allow a man to rob a women just as easily. What matters is who has the most money... not what sex you are.

You have to remember that, on average, a woman makes 77 cents to every dollar a man makes (2005 figure).  :couch
You have to remember that, on average, a woman gets 50 cents of every dollar a man makes (Timeless figure). :couch
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Re: What turns you on?
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2008, 05:01:31 AM »
And yet women account for 80% of all consumer expenditures... Figures are so unreliable (and guys are so fucking whipped).
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Re: What turns you on?
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2008, 05:06:28 AM »
And yet women account for 80% of all consumer expenditures... Figures are so unreliable (and guys are so fucking whipped).
50+70/170= 70%
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Re: What turns you on?
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2008, 05:38:17 AM »
And yet women account for 80% of all consumer expenditures... Figures are so unreliable (and guys are so fucking whipped).
50+70/170= 70%
...That's not even true. That comes out to 54.1176471. :P You meant (50+70)/170 (and even that has to be rounded).

As for the math, that comes out of no-fucking-where. Also, when I said figures are unreliable, that's because most of the data gathered by the U.S. government about this issue is flawed (and even the correct information doesn't explain the causality at all - leading to various theories of choice, discrimination, etc.).
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Re: What turns you on?
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2008, 07:01:06 AM »
I'd have to say Nox is pretty close on this one.  Going into detail about why, though, just might earn me the ire of many a woman (granted they're the type I'd probably despise/be despised by anyway, but I'd rather we remain ignorant of one another for as long as possible instead of engaging one another).