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Re: 944,944 attacks in a single action
« Reply #200 on: July 30, 2008, 04:53:15 AM »
Option B. :D

PTWF interacts very oddly by its wording. Since it allows your offhand to take as many attacks as your mainhand. Your mainhand takes X and crescent knives doubles the number of attacks to 2*X. Now since your mainhand takes 2*X attacks, your offhand each takes 2*X attacks. Crescent knives again double this so each offhand gets 4*X attacks.
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Re: 944,944 attacks in a single action
« Reply #201 on: July 30, 2008, 09:59:54 AM »
Option B. :D

PTWF interacts very oddly by its wording. Since it allows your offhand to take as many attacks as your mainhand. Your mainhand takes X and crescent knives doubles the number of attacks to 2*X. Now since your mainhand takes 2*X attacks, your offhand each takes 2*X attacks. Crescent knives again double this so each offhand gets 4*X attacks.

Verily.

And any other ideas to ramp this up? Remember, we've got 4 Open Feats (2 are Vile, but can shuffled as we need), without taking Pacts, either (as they still confuse me).

And 2 more (for 6 total) if we want to shuffle away Weapon Finesse and Mobility, since they're from Shou levels and entirely unneeded for the # of attacks (I just thought they'd be the best at those levels for the character).

And BAB is no longer a concern at all, remember.

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Re: 944,944 attacks in a single action
« Reply #202 on: July 30, 2008, 10:45:54 AM »
Well, maneuvers and action advantage are beside the point (though I really don't see the problem with Dancing Mongoose as a buff), and you won't allow Aptitude abuse (There are about three weapons with "melee rapid shot" type abilities available as feats), so there aren't many avenues open to us.
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Re: 944,944 attacks in a single action
« Reply #203 on: July 30, 2008, 11:01:00 AM »
Well, maneuvers and action advantage are beside the point (though I really don't see the problem with Dancing Mongoose as a buff), and you won't allow Aptitude abuse (There are about three weapons with "melee rapid shot" type abilities available as feats), so there aren't many avenues open to us.

You could still give the info for said weapons, as the higher we go, the more likely I am to cave-in to using such things if we're just barely short of the next goal.  ;)

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Re: 944,944 attacks in a single action
« Reply #204 on: July 30, 2008, 07:03:00 PM »
The Eagle Claw (Sandstorm) has an associated feat called Eagle's Fury that grants an extra attack at the cost of -2 to all attacks. Someone with Lost Empires of Faerun may want to check Someone-or-other's Triple Strike (name begins with S).

Is there room to hit +19 Use Psionic Device? If there is, a Dorje of Form of Doom will add four tentacles.

Also, I should declare that a lot of my tricks have been from looking up extra (natural) attacks in Surreal's thread index.
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Re: 944,944 attacks in a single action
« Reply #205 on: July 30, 2008, 07:09:44 PM »
Any chance to fit in Rapidstrike or Improved Rapidstrike?

Not sure if you have those yet but those came to mind while working on my Beguiler (the race, not the class :P) Soul Eater :D

EDIT: Any chance of eating a Changeling (and a) Warshaper to grow a crapton of extra natural attacks?

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Re: 944,944 attacks in a single action
« Reply #206 on: July 31, 2008, 04:55:14 PM »
Sakkratar's Triple Strike (Lost Empires of Faerun 33): http://www.imarvintpa.com/dndlive/spells.php?ID=6350

It won't stack with haste, if I recall correctly, but it's one more attack than haste anyway.
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Re: 944,944 attacks in a single action
« Reply #207 on: July 31, 2008, 06:08:20 PM »
Replacing Haste makes the attacks 28, which makes the base number of attacks 112 (instead of 108). A 4 attack increase for the main hand.

This brings the number to... 991,984+448 (armor spikes and unarmed strike)+52 (gore and braid blade)...

992,484. Not quite one million, but 35,000 more attacks, which isn't bad. Good find, Nox.
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Re: 944,944 attacks in a single action
« Reply #208 on: July 31, 2008, 06:46:11 PM »
And Form of Doom? That's four offhands, for another 3584 attacks. 996068. Only 4000 to go!

Note: We can hit +19 UPD just by taking cross-class ranks.
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Re: 944,944 attacks in a single action
« Reply #209 on: July 31, 2008, 11:51:32 PM »
And Form of Doom?

Only works in your original form and while your mind is in your own body, unless it's been updated since XPH.

Good catch on the better haste though, I'll update totals in the AM. ^.^

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Re: 944,944 attacks in a single action
« Reply #210 on: August 26, 2008, 07:42:28 PM »
EDIT: Any chance of eating a Changeling (and a) Warshaper to grow a crapton of extra natural attacks?

That would require 4 more levels in IS, losing us two attacks fro totemist, a doubling from master thrower, and some other goodies...

And bumped for finally updating the OP, AC's number was spot on. :D

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Re: 992,484 attacks in a single action
« Reply #211 on: August 27, 2008, 06:29:20 AM »
Do we still have something against Aptitude cheese? If not, Aptitude Crescent Knives, EWP (Eagle's Claw) and Eagle's Fury (both from Sandstorm) will squeeze out one more mainhand base attack. 14 mainhand before any doublings means TC gives 28, STS gives 30, PT goes to 60, and Crescent Knives makes 120.

Each offhand now gives 120*8=480 attacks per knife-hand, or 1062720 offhand knives, another 480 non-knife offhands, and 52 natural/braids, for 1,063,372 attacks. If you'll allow a little Aptitude abuse, that is...
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Re: 1,063,372 attacks in a single action
« Reply #212 on: September 07, 2008, 07:41:16 PM »
Aptitude added in, and only to push us over 1million, and I was going to add in Raging Mongoose too, but I realized that it's a swift action that adds attacks, so it's not part of the single action attack routine that the thing is optimized for.

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Re: 1,063,372 attacks in a single action
« Reply #213 on: October 07, 2008, 03:11:26 PM »
That's pretty cool.  I might make a scaled-down version of this as a villain next time.
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Re: 1,063,372 attacks in a single action
« Reply #214 on: October 07, 2008, 03:26:09 PM »
That's pretty cool.  I might make a scaled-down version of this as a villain next time.

If you take just the Kobold herself (no leadership, no mind switch, no grafts) it scales down really well for a villain. If you take just the Kobold herself and drop off the PaO, shuffles, and PTWF it actually scales pretty well as a PC.  :D

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Re: 1,063,372 attacks in a single action
« Reply #215 on: October 07, 2008, 04:18:58 PM »
Well PTWF is not that bad. It's just all the other stuff building off of it that messes it up.
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Re: 1,063,372 attacks in a single action
« Reply #216 on: October 07, 2008, 04:21:54 PM »
Well PTWF is not that bad. It's just all the other stuff building off of it that messes it up.

True, true. But even the base kobold build really goes apeshit with PTWF and it's affect on the doubling effects.


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Re: 1,063,372 attacks in a single action
« Reply #218 on: October 28, 2008, 07:06:14 PM »
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When it attacks, it throws the knives in a kaleidoscopic whirlwind of motion. Each knife somehow finds it's way back to the creature to be thrown again and again, leaving an insane network of trailers from the flames that adorn them. Occasionally one of the knives bursts into fire when it finds it's mark, yet the flames still trail back to the creature, reforming the blade to be thrown again. At the same time, it's snakelike heads lash at, battering it's foe with it's necks, horns, and the blades twisted in it's hair. It's torso also swings around, dragging the spiked and bladed armor across it's enemies.[/spoiler]

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Re: 1,063,372 attacks in a single action
« Reply #219 on: October 29, 2008, 12:10:44 AM »
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