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Re: Compilation of Low Level Builds
« Reply #120 on: September 12, 2010, 09:32:13 PM »
Or the Druid could use the Survival skill to forage for food... and the Dog can aid another.

...or you could use the Goodberry spell.

Did I miss something?  Why the worry about food?

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Re: Compilation of Low Level Builds
« Reply #121 on: September 14, 2010, 03:32:58 PM »
No, not really.
Though Goodberry heals damage, it doesn't provide any nutrition beyond what normal berries for that size provide, which isn't much.
Well what do you know, double-checking is a good thing.

I'm just mentioning it because it can be a good thing to remember, if you're playing low-level, semi-realistic (as realistic as DnD can get anyway) and in an environment that doesn't produce much in the way of foodstuffs for dogs or for that matter berries.

I don't worry, I just tend to take a few travel rations for my character until I can get an item producing food and forget about it but I thought it should be fair to the dog that I remembered to give him some food as well :D
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Re: Compilation of Low Level Builds
« Reply #122 on: September 14, 2010, 04:25:43 PM »
I think you can buy a quart of berries for like, 1 gp or something sillylike that, for what it's worth.
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Re: Compilation of Low Level Builds
« Reply #123 on: September 14, 2010, 06:42:22 PM »
Not a problem Shadowhunter, I've lost track of the times I've needed to make a double-take at something.

McPoyo, the druid has to pick them fresh.  I'd make the Survival DC rediculously low to just find a few... instead of a full-meal's worth.


(edit:  I forgot to mention the Everlasting Rations item from the Magic Item Compendium.  At 350gp, it's pretty affordable for low levels... even more so with the extra 300gp from the Mercantile Background feat.)

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Re: Compilation of Low Level Builds
« Reply #124 on: September 17, 2010, 10:39:22 AM »
1st level build (I used it in an arena matchup once, but I had to quit due to RL)

Zug-zug, the Mighty
Water Orc Dread Necromancer

Str 18
Dex 16
Con 16
Int 6
Wis 6
Cha 14

Maxed Skills:
Concentration

Feats:
Tomb-tainted Soul, Death Devotion, Improved Initiative, Shaky (flaw), Feeble (flaw)

Equipment:
Scythe, 5 Javelins

The main schtick was to cast Bane, then Cause Fear, then hit them with a Death Devotion-enhanced Scythe attack to drain a level out of them (and then run away from the ensuing ghoul!).  Tomb-tainted Soul made sure you stayed alive more-or-less as long as you needed to be alive.

Here's the character sheet with humor attached: http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=120892

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Re: Compilation of Low Level Builds
« Reply #125 on: September 24, 2010, 02:13:21 PM »
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Halfling Dragonfire Adept 5/Nosomatic Chirurgeon 1
Feats
     1st   Draconic Heitage
     3rd   Lesser Dragonmark (Mark of Healing)
     6th   Draconic Breath (CArc)
Invocations
     Enthralling Voice (6th level spell! for a lesser invocation!)

Can breath 12d6 breath weapons at will, at a 16+Cha DC. Best low level blasting I've seen in awhile.

Nosomatic Chirurgeon lets you cast Inflict spells at the cost of SLAs. Draconic Breath lets you convert spells into 2d6 per level Breath Weapon.
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Re: Compilation of Low Level Builds
« Reply #126 on: September 24, 2010, 05:16:41 PM »
1st level build (I used it in an arena matchup once, but I had to quit due to RL)

Zug-zug, the Mighty
Water Orc Dread Necromancer

Str 18
Dex 16
Con 16
Int 6
Wis 6
Cha 14

Maxed Skills:
Concentration

Feats:
Tomb-tainted Soul, Death Devotion, Improved Initiative, Shaky (flaw), Feeble (flaw)

Equipment:
Scythe, 5 Javelins

The main schtick was to cast Bane, then Cause Fear, then hit them with a Death Devotion-enhanced Scythe attack to drain a level out of them (and then run away from the ensuing ghoul!).  Tomb-tainted Soul made sure you stayed alive more-or-less as long as you needed to be alive.

Here's the character sheet with humor attached: http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=120892

Oh James, you bring back such fond memories of my Scythe wielding Dread Necromancer.   

http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19871738/Kicking_Down_the_Door:_The_Journal

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Re: Compilation of Low Level Builds
« Reply #127 on: September 24, 2010, 05:26:02 PM »

Oh James, you bring back such fond memories of my Scythe wielding Dread Necromancer.   

http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19871738/Kicking_Down_the_Door:_The_Journal
I remember that journal. I wondered if you were another of James' screen names or something.  :lol
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Re: Compilation of Low Level Builds
« Reply #128 on: September 24, 2010, 07:24:29 PM »

Oh James, you bring back such fond memories of my Scythe wielding Dread Necromancer.   

http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19871738/Kicking_Down_the_Door:_The_Journal
I remember that journal. I wondered if you were another of James' screen names or something.  :lol

I just realized I posted through my friends account (Growin).  Jopustopin = me on this forum and at wizards.  Man me and my friends still talk about those days in the all orc campaign.  It was just the perfect group for such nonsense and can never be replicated.  I should bring the journal over here before it dies on the wizard forums.

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Re: Compilation of Low Level Builds
« Reply #129 on: September 25, 2010, 11:43:29 AM »
Yeah, that was totally the inspiration for Zug-zug!

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Re: Compilation of Low Level Builds
« Reply #130 on: November 08, 2010, 09:01:55 PM »
Arise, oh thread! Beckon at once to your former masters, and trouble the land of the dead no more! (I'm aware that handbooks can't be necro'd. Just felt like throwing that out there.)

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Human: Strength of Conviction

Heretic of the Faith lets you basically thumb your nose at your Code of Conduct. Strength of Conviction lets you Smite things of any alignment, but you don't get your Cha bonus to Attack.

Very simple, and it works out of the box. (Might want a good amount of Strength, though.)
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Cleric: "I can kill a guy in half a turn."
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Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
might want to put a little disclaimer in the first post.

This is the Min/Max board. We should be able to figure out a way to optimize the POWER OF PRAYER(TM) that doesn't involve "Pazuzu, Pazuzu, Pazuzu".
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Re: Compilation of Low Level Builds
« Reply #131 on: November 18, 2010, 10:35:28 PM »
The Beastmaster

Human Marshal1

18 cha, at least 14 int

Minor Aura: motivate charisma
Feats: nymph's kiss, skill focus (handle animal)
Key item: masterwork item of handle animal (50 gps)

This guy has a +19 modifier (4 cha +4 motivate charisma +3 skill focus +2 nymph's kiss +2 masterwork item +4 skill ranks) to his handle animal check, meaning that he can rear 3 five HD animals with 100% success. So for example he can have 3 lions or dire wolverines which should easily handle any CR1 challenges. In addition he'll have a +14 modifier to diplomacy, bluff, and intimidate checks.

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Re: Compilation of Low Level Builds
« Reply #132 on: November 19, 2010, 11:05:49 AM »
The Beastmaster

Human Marshal1

18 cha, at least 14 int

Minor Aura: motivate charisma
Feats: nymph's kiss, skill focus (handle animal)
Key item: masterwork item of handle animal (50 gps)

This guy has a +19 modifier (4 cha +4 motivate charisma +3 skill focus +2 nymph's kiss +2 masterwork item +4 skill ranks) to his handle animal check, meaning that he can rear 3 five HD animals with 100% success. So for example he can have 3 lions or dire wolverines which should easily handle any CR1 challenges. In addition he'll have a +14 modifier to diplomacy, bluff, and intimidate checks.
very nice

he actually has a +17 to Diplomacy since he gets Skill Focus(Diplomacy) for free(Marshal class ability)

 :D

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Re: Compilation of Low Level Builds
« Reply #133 on: November 19, 2010, 08:48:47 PM »
D'OH!

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Re: Compilation of Low Level Builds
« Reply #134 on: November 25, 2010, 06:04:18 PM »
After reading through this tome of wisdom, I decided to build a new character for our new one shot arena campaign (level 1). I decided on this:

Battle Sorcerer 1 (human) (I love the Battle Sorcerer :D)

STR 16
DEX 12
CON 14
INT 10
WIS 10
CHA 18

(I rolled some decent stats)
 
For my spells, I chose Magic Missile and Blades of Fire (Complete Arcane). My feats are Precocious Apprentice and Fiery Burst. I also have an wolf animal companion instead of a familiar. Does the build look decent? I have no idea on what my opponent will be. Books allowed are PHB 1 & 2, Completes (except Scoundrel becaues I don't have it), and Unearthed Arcana (class variants only). What do you all think?

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Re: Compilation of Low Level Builds
« Reply #135 on: November 30, 2010, 11:42:40 AM »
Scary Scales, the Dragonborn Hexblade.

Race: Dragonborn with the breath weapon, base race: Any without a Cha penalty. Cha bonuses are nice too.

1: Hexblade, Intimidating Strike*
2: Hexblade
3: Hexblade, Entangling Exhalation
4: Hexblade, Dark Companion

Notes: Max out Intimidate. Use your breath weapon to keep the enemy entangled. Then, using a reach weapon and intimidating strike to make the BBEG shaken, then curse them when their saves are the lowest. With your dark companion in the mix this should be relatively easy. In two or three rounds you can leave your foe with -6 to attacks, -6 to saves, -4 to checks, -2 to damage and AC, and -4 dex. And you can do that without expending any resources, other than the 1/day curse, but frankly that's the least of your debuffs.

Also, unlike a lot of other debuffers built around fear, this guy remains flexible in a fight against undead and fear/mind-effect. Entanglement works against just about anything (remember that Dragonborn can cherry-pick the energy effect with each blast, and there is no save against the entangling so long as the target takes some damage from the breath attack. Dark Companion also works against 'any enemy.'

I like intimidating Strike because of its long duration - Making a foe shaken for the encounter is nice. However, Daunting presence is an acceptable alternative if you don't mind the shorter duration and want to stay out of melee.

Sources needed:
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Complete warrior for Hexblade.
Races of the Dragon for Dragonborn and Entangling Exhalation
PHII for Dark Companion alternate class feature and Intimidating Strike.[/spoiler]
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Re: Compilation of Low Level Builds
« Reply #136 on: November 30, 2010, 12:04:02 PM »
That's one sexy debuffer, right there. :clap
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Quote from: Runestar
the most effective optimization is the one you can actually get away with.  :smirk

Quote from: Vinom
(A group of nerds are called a murder because like crows we are anti-social, like shiny things, and often squack at each other over nothing for hours)

I often have to remind people not to underrate divination.  The ability to effectively metagame without actually metagaming beats the ability to set things on fire more times than not.
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Re: Compilation of Low Level Builds
« Reply #137 on: November 30, 2010, 06:16:15 PM »
That's one sexy debuffer, right there. :clap

Why thank you, I've quite enjoyed him. The big problem is the first two levels of the build are rocky until you get that second feat. It's also a bit tough to continue with at higher levels. There's a reason Hexblades are in a lower tier.

Doing some thinking though, advancing into levels of Crusader might be nice. More options, durability, and some Cha synergy.

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Re: Compilation of Low Level Builds
« Reply #138 on: December 11, 2010, 04:29:06 PM »
For completeness, the Level 3 version:

Scary Scales, the Dragonborn Hexblade.
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Race: Dragonborn with the breath weapon, base race: Any without a Cha penalty. Cha bonuses are nice too.

1: Hexblade, Intimidating Strike*
2: Hexblade
3: Hexblade, Entangling Exhalation

Notes: Max out Intimidate. Use your breath weapon to keep the enemy entangled. Then, using a reach weapon and intimidating strike to make the BBEG shaken, then curse them when their saves are the lowest. With your dark companion in the mix this should be relatively easy. In two or three rounds you can leave your foe with -6 to attacks, -4 to saves, -4 to checks, -2 to damage, and -4 dex. And you can do that without expending any resources, other than the 1/day curse, but frankly that's the least of your debuffs.

Also, unlike a lot of other debuffers built around fear, this guy remains flexible in a fight against undead and fear/mind-effect. Entanglement works against just about anything (remember that Dragonborn can cherry-pick the energy effect with each blast, and there is no save against the entangling so long as the target takes some damage from the breath attack.

I like intimidating Strike because of its long duration - Making a foe shaken for the encounter is nice. However, Daunting presence is an acceptable alternative if you don't mind the shorter duration and want to stay out of melee.

Sources needed:
[spoiler]
Complete warrior for Hexblade.
Races of the Dragon for Dragonborn and Entangling Exhalation[/spoiler][/spoiler]

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Re: Compilation of Low Level Builds
« Reply #139 on: December 11, 2010, 06:57:31 PM »
Adding in Dreadful Wrath might be worth it if you have flaws.