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Re: A half-dragon's brith
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2008, 07:32:42 AM »
A 100 volt shock to the spine can instantly kill a person, for reference).


If it hits the heart, it only needs to be greater than 5 volts.

Ironically, you're more likely to survive greater shocks than lesser shocks, because a low voltage to the heart will cause difibrillation, while a greater one (not sure the exact threshold, I just assume all electric shocks are dangerous) will cause the chest muscles to seize up so tight the heart can't beat at all, preventing defibrillation. 

(I worked with 450 volt three phase equipment in my last job, they tried hard to drum electricity safety into our heads.  I've already forgotten most of it :p )
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Re: A half-dragon's brith
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2008, 07:42:37 AM »
A 100 volt shock to the spine can instantly kill a person, for reference).


If it hits the heart, it only needs to be greater than 5 volts.

Ironically, you're more likely to survive greater shocks than lesser shocks, because a low voltage to the heart will cause difibrillation, while a greater one (not sure the exact threshold, I just assume all electric shocks are dangerous) will cause the chest muscles to seize up so tight the heart can't beat at all, preventing defibrillation. 

(I worked with 450 volt three phase equipment in my last job, they tried hard to drum electricity safety into our heads.  I've already forgotten most of it :p )

I've always heard it was current that mattered moreso than voltage, in terms of the danger.  (Of course, I could be remembering it totally backwards, as I never even needed to learn electrical safety for anything.  Now, radiation safety on the other hand... hint, don't prank radiation badges, people do come looking for the body).
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Re: A half-dragon's brith
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2008, 12:30:20 PM »
Well, if you have a 1A current source, the voltage is totally dependent on resistance as V=IR. Air has a resistance of about 30,000 Ohms per cm. Think about that for a second ;)

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Re: A half-dragon's brith
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2008, 01:14:43 PM »
Well, if you have a 1A current source, the voltage is totally dependent on resistance as V=IR. Air has a resistance of about 30,000 Ohms per cm. Think about that for a second ;)

Well, if you're the only thing making the loop, then yeah, your bodies resistance sets the current.  However, generally you're a minor part of a larger loop.  Ie, a high voltage fence isn't usually going to kill you, because the current in the fence is really low (and your touching it won't significantly change the resistance of the loop, thus not significantly altering the current).  Which isn't to say you should go around touching electric fences, but you're at least likely to survive doing so should it happen by accident.
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Re: A half-dragon's brith
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2008, 01:59:03 PM »
Between air and you, you are the preferred current path. Zzzt!

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Re: A half-dragon's brith
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2008, 02:30:24 PM »
And if you're wet, you have 10-100 times less resistance.

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Re: A half-dragon's brith
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2008, 09:43:16 PM »
And if you're wet, you have 10-100 times less resistance.
So being a female means you are more likely to get hit by lightning?
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Amperage does matter more than voltage if you are wanting to kill someone.
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« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2008, 10:13:19 PM »
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Re: A half-dragon's brith
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2008, 12:36:55 AM »
Back on topic:

I say in the case of half-dragons, the gestation is whatever fits the mother's species.

If the mother is a humanoid, then the birth is live.  If the mother is a dragon, then the half-dragon hatches from an egg.

From a scientific standpoint, it doesn't make a damn lick of sense, I concede that point.  However, I'm going with that because half-dragon/half-humans are HAWT!   :D
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« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2008, 06:44:10 AM »
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Re: A half-dragon's brith
« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2008, 09:34:26 AM »
not all half dragons are created equal..

in the case of the half dragon / half human. both the dragon female and the human female have eggs. either live birth or egg laying is an option if the mother is human. if the mother is a dragon it pretty much needs to be an eggs since she has not way to hook up an umbilical cord.. if simply getting lucky with a human male is enough to magically grow a uterus then gay dudes are in trouble..
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Re: A half-dragon's brith
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2009, 06:32:49 AM »
This debate can be solved very easily for those who doubt a dragon and human can reproduce, in the words of the immortal Jeff Goldblum "Life will find a way."

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Re: A half-dragon's brith
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2009, 06:57:36 AM »
From a scientific standpoint, it doesn't make a damn lick of sense, I concede that point.  However, I'm going with that because half-dragon/half-humans are HAWT!   :D
Or cool, or shocking, or loud, or posionous, depending on the type of dragon.
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Re: A half-dragon's brith
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2009, 07:07:28 AM »
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Re: A half-dragon's brith
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2009, 07:16:42 AM »
Otherwise, I'd REALLY like you to explain to me how the hell can an adventurer survive a Lightning Bolt, or even DODGE one entirely for that matter (it's visible lightning, which means it's over 10000 volts, and it travels WAY too quickly for someone to conceivably dodge it. A 100 volt shock to the spine can instantly kill a person, for reference).

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Re: A half-dragon's brith
« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2009, 07:57:01 AM »
If a male dragon mated with a female human.
Would she lay an egg or give birth to living offspring?

Oh god damn you for starting this old Wizards topic... god damn you to hell, but this is either going to be more amusing than the old one, or taken more seriously, and I eagerly await finding out which. :p

er, maybe this isn't from wizards... I seem to have completely forgotten my own prior involvement in this thread...
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Re: A half-dragon's brith
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2009, 08:24:43 AM »
They're only the same species as science in the real world defines them, and as we know, science in the real world breaks down when applied to D&D in many scenarios.

The Frankenstein's Monster mode of creation flies in the face of all of the existing "descriptions" for how half-dragons come to be.  They say that a dragon "mates" with another creature, not that a dragon creates an abomination to life and science with another creature... :lol

Yes, its really easy to write that, because what the writer wants is dragon/human hybrids.  The problems are legion.

Dragons have cloaca.  How the hell do they mate with humans?
who says? just because the red dragon's junk isn't hanging out in the MM doesn't mean it's got a cloaca, any more than the lack of pegasus junk gives them cloaca, it merely means the artist didn't feel like being realistic enough for the book to require a mature warning.

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Dragons lay eggs, humans give birth live.
so what? No, really, so what? It's not that humans don't have eggs, they do, they're just not eggs in the colloquial sense. And don't forget, there are snakes that give live birth and mammals that lay eggs. Live vrs. Egg birth is not a dividing line for reptiles and mammals. I have no clue where I'm going with this...

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Dragons have a rather different cranial arrangement with humans that is utterly incompatible, including, among other things, the ear bones of a dragon are fused to the jaw (which leads to them being differently located about the skull as well), the musculature for working the jaw is arranged differently (don't have the right temporal fenestra), they have two temporal fenestrae instead of one, and neither of their temporal fenestrae are homologous to the mammalian one.  I could go on, the list of differences is rather exhaustive and would probably take pages.
again, so what? This means nothing when it comes to half dragons, as half dragons are magically created creatures (whether through natural magic or artificially induced magic). If the half dragon has a draconian head, he'll have a draconian skull, if the half dragon has a humanoid head, he'll have a humanoid skull.

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Dragons have a three-chambered heart, mammals a four-chambered heart.
*pulls out draconomicon* canon says a dragon has a four chambered heart just like a mammal.

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Teeth differences - dragon teeth are undifferentiated cutting blades.  Mammalian teeth are highly specialized.  An ad hoc intermediary is going to be non-functional.
Dragons are Omnivores, in the truest sense of the word, I'd say they probably have some highly specialized teeth as well, which could well be adopted by a half dragon.

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Scales vs. skin
human genetic disorders say "your point?"

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Dragons don't have sweat glands, mammals do.
Dragons don't have to sweat, their fundamentum uses excess body heat to fuel the breath weapon, which half-dragons have also.

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hexapod vs. tetrapod
er, sorta.. but anyway, what does this have to do with anything regarding mating? If you're thinking positioning...

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Cloaca = urinary, intestinal, and genital tract in one tube.  Mammals partition these into three tubes.  (two of them happen to rejoin in males, but they are distinct tubes within the body prior to that even then).
hmm... Draconomicon didn't go into any detail regarding reproductive structures... I can't imagine why, I mean, they explain Beholder and Illithid reproduction... and beholder reproduction involves roman showers...
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Re: A half-dragon's brith
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2009, 02:55:49 PM »
Look, according to DnD canon, it can happen, how it happened is a different thing subject matter, what the question is about is the birth...
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Re: A half-dragon's brith
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2009, 05:00:48 PM »
Otherwise, I'd REALLY like you to explain to me how the hell can an adventurer survive a Lightning Bolt, or even DODGE one entirely for that matter (it's visible lightning, which means it's over 10000 volts, and it travels WAY too quickly for someone to conceivably dodge it. A 100 volt shock to the spine can instantly kill a person, for reference).

Roy Sulivan a Ranger, survived being hit by lightening on 7 seperate occasions.

Being hit. NOT dodging. BIG difference.
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Re: A half-dragon's brith
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2009, 05:15:47 PM »
You still take damage for "dodging" a lightening bolt, which to me implies "dodging" is more abstract than jumping out of the way.

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