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Re: optimize grapple
« Reply #80 on: October 27, 2011, 07:47:23 AM »
Any suggested E6 builds for this? I'm kinda interested in putting together a Garrote killer for the city game we're in. Someone who protests the cruelty of the City Guard, the Legion, by isolating members and strangling them to death. I'm thinking Rogue but am open to other ideas. So far the vast majority of our enemies have been humanoid so size bonuses aren't really that big of a concern yet.

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Re: optimize grapple
« Reply #81 on: October 27, 2011, 09:49:30 AM »
I don't play E6 so I don't know about particular restrictions, but I do have a pretty badass ECL 6 grapplemancer.  It uses 2 flaws, but you could do it with just one, and it has a +40 grapple check at 6th level and does loads of damage.  The items could be amped up to make it even better (it's an NPC so has lower wealth).

However, it does not use a garrotte.  Are you interested?
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Re: optimize grapple
« Reply #82 on: October 27, 2011, 10:00:25 AM »
Most certainly. Killing impudent guardsmen with his bare hands is just as good. :)

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Re: optimize grapple
« Reply #83 on: October 27, 2011, 11:05:50 AM »
Well, then, here you go.  http://d20npcs.wikia.com/wiki/Grapplemancer

I'll add this build to my OP eventually.  :D
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Re: optimize grapple
« Reply #84 on: October 27, 2011, 01:04:50 PM »
Any chance I could get you to spell out all the bonuses to grapple in this thing. Not sure if I'll be able to use it all and need to know what has the biggest effect on it. I doubt I'll need a +40 to beat everyday mooks we've seen so far.

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Re: optimize grapple
« Reply #85 on: October 27, 2011, 01:12:18 PM »
Sure.

+4 bab +7 str +4 jotunbrud +4 enlarge person +4 improved grapple +2 flexible limbs +3 octopus familiar +1 brawler trait +10 girallon arms +4 fearsome grapple

(I actually forgot the familiar... it's +43.)
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Re: optimize grapple
« Reply #86 on: October 27, 2011, 01:45:15 PM »
I don't think Enlarge and Jotobrund actually stack, wouldn't they would both have you treated as Large? Other than that it looks good.


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Re: optimize grapple
« Reply #87 on: October 27, 2011, 01:46:23 PM »
Hmmmm... looking at Jotunbrud again, I think it doesn't work anyway since he's not human.  So scrap the Jotunbrud and it's a 39.  And you can do it w/o flaws by leaving out Flexible Limbs.
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Re: optimize grapple
« Reply #88 on: October 27, 2011, 01:48:53 PM »
+37 is still a very respectable grapple check at CR 6. I'll definitely have to consider it for a new character.

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Re: optimize grapple
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Re: optimize grapple
« Reply #90 on: October 27, 2011, 01:55:28 PM »
Thanks!  That's very helpful.

I'm going to make this into a real handbook soon, and I will indeed separate them thusly, it's a good suggestion.
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