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Achillides

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Advice/comment for my thralls
« on: October 17, 2011, 07:11:31 PM »
Hello,

This is for a pathfinder /3.5, with about every books

I'm playing a stp erudite/thallherd // archivist, i'm mainly playing as a battlefield control. I want to get the most out of my thralls since I lost 2 manifester level to get them. This is a high power game and we will go alot into epic, my DM will house rule I can take epic leadership to advence my thralls. I just want some advice on those build. Magic items are not a problem, I have almost all the feats to make them and money won't be an issue.

First thrall : Halfling (can't change the race) , lurk 10 / swiftblade 10, will take practiced manifester and since i'm a stp to power erudite I will give him haste with EK or psychic chirurgery. As I understand the lurk augment sneak attack, you can boost it with your manifester level + practiced manifester that means I still have my full 20 ml to sneak attack when I burn PP. With the other lurk augment deceiptive strike I can sneak attack when I want.

I want this thrall to be the main damage dealer.

Second thrall : I want to make a caster slayer or something like that, we are playing with psy/magic transparency. Thri-kreen 2 (buyoff LA) / ranger 1 / ardent 2 / illithid slayer 10 / sanctified mind 5. With practiced manifester I get good ML and good BAB.

I have no idea for feats or magic items I should aim for.

Thanks for your time and advices.
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Re: Advice/comment for my thralls
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2011, 12:20:19 AM »
Erudite 9 / Thrallherd 8 ... hasn't reached 9s just yet
but if you go Thrallherd +1=9 you lose the 9th level powers.
Erudite 10 / Thrallherd 8 = 9th level powers.
StP gets those spellpoint 8s.
Erudite 11 / Thrallherd 10 = still OK
... (silly) details.

2nd Thrall
+2 LA buyoff by the math is done around level 20 (for the thrall)
SRD Slayer > Illithid Slayer
Sanc Mind 6 > Slayer level 10
Minor adjustments.

1st Thrall
Dictum Mortum has the Lurk guide over on the handbooks.
Psi Sneak Attack + the Lurk augs that specifically work with Sneak
... are kinda weak. I'd bet a non-psi Sneak Attacker would be better.
Since idk Swiftblade, I won't comment on that.
Can you be the Goofy-footed Halfling that gets the bonus feat like a human?


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Re: Advice/comment for my thralls
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2011, 12:37:43 AM »
Yeah I figured it with the levels of thrallherd, but thanks.

Also. this is a pathfinder game I get 1 feat / 2 levels, so it's not really a concern.

For the halfling I get the normal version in the dmg, but I will probably true mind switch him to something else once I get the chance.
I don't get why it would be weaker than a normal sneak attacker 2d6 from lurk + 10d6 from ML (20 PP burn) and I can sneak when I want with the second augment.

Good advice for the second thrall ;)

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Re: Advice/comment for my thralls
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2011, 12:40:58 AM »
Side question that ties into the Thrallherd sort of:

Couldn't a Kalastar Psionic Artificer gain access to Thrallherd?

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Re: Advice/comment for my thralls
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2011, 12:42:12 AM »
That's the thing ... +1d6 per 2 ppoints. And on one attack only.
You'll burn through the Lurk's ppoint pool in 6 uses.

There are some good powers that augment +1d6 per 1 ppoint , area effect too.

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Re: Advice/comment for my thralls
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2011, 12:44:43 AM »
Side question that ties into the Thrallherd sort of:

Couldn't a Kalastar Psionic Artificer gain access to Thrallherd?

Well, it "should" just because of the psi Arty levels.
But yeah, the Kalastar has a built in ML ability.

iirc - when I looked at the Psi Arty (and I might not remember)
it seemed to me that level 11 was a good break point.
Linked metapsi for Psi Arty = good enough.