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Re: Anyone want to run an All-Wizard game?
« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2011, 10:47:45 PM »
I decided that I want to redo my DN slightly and got somewhat interested in Fiend Blooded. The problem would be the 8 ranks of Know (Planes). Would any of you guys be able to offer some advice on this?
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Re: Anyone want to run an All-Wizard game?
« Reply #41 on: October 03, 2011, 10:51:32 PM »
Without Spellthief, you are left with (assuming you want to go with my Evoker build and not Sorc):

Illumian Evoker 2/MS 1/KotW 1/UM 10/X 3/MS +1/X 2, where X is Archmage or War Mage.  You get Miracle at 18th level, and your CLs are:

Evoker 19 + 1 (sigil) + 4 (asp) = 24
KotW 8 + 24 (evoker) + 4 (asp) = 36

And of course you get +1 Evoker CL and +2 KotW CL for each Archmage Spell Power you take, or whatever.

EDIT: Crap, that doesn't work, you need 8 ranks in Spellcraft to qualify for UM.  Well, you get the idea.
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Re: Anyone want to run an All-Wizard game?
« Reply #42 on: October 03, 2011, 10:52:21 PM »
I decided that I want to redo my DN slightly and got somewhat interested in Fiend Blooded. The problem would be the 8 ranks of Know (Planes). Would any of you guys be able to offer some advice on this?

The Educated feat gives you all Knowledges as class skills.
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Re: Anyone want to run an All-Wizard game?
« Reply #43 on: October 03, 2011, 11:08:21 PM »
Or it could give you a chance to play something you wanted to try that had alot of flavor, but never actually did because it wasent optimal.

 :D

I totally understand you here dude, and actually this got me thinking, I kindda want to play a sorcerer specialising in Magic Missile. I was thinking I'd do something like Kobold Sorcerer with Loredrake and War Mage levels.

However I can't remember if anyone already did this. Or if kobold loredrake will be over the top.

If not, here's a sheet WiP.
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Re: Anyone want to run an All-Wizard game?
« Reply #44 on: October 03, 2011, 11:14:27 PM »
I'm going back to the drawing board and looking for new ideas again. I'm just not satisfied with what I'm coming up with and I don't want to go Circle magic as that will just be way too much work trying to keep it from being destroyed. Right now Mixster is wanting to go all magic missile on stuff so I'll let him work on the blasting portion for now while I contemplate what I might want to play, as i'm not certain about trying to be a general blaster without a stupid high CL.

Oh and Mixster if it would be allowed you may want to look into Force Weaver, it is in Path of Magic a 3.0 Legends and Lairs supplement, it adds a bunch of force themed abilities and bonus damage to any force spell.
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Re: Anyone want to run an All-Wizard game?
« Reply #45 on: October 03, 2011, 11:37:08 PM »
Well, what do we have right now?  A Summoner (me), and Abjurer/Crafter (the good drhorrible), a Dread Necromancer (monotremeancer), and either an beguiler or a transmuter (flay crimsonwind).  There's still a Diviner to be had, and then in terms of PrCs to tap there's Incantatrix (we need at least one), Anima Mage, War Weaver, Dweomerkeeper, and other random fun things like Sentinel of Bharrai, Dracolexi, or Escalation Mage.  If you could houserule at least one more CL into Master Transmogrifist, that one could be a lot of fun as well for a transmuter.
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Re: Anyone want to run an All-Wizard game?
« Reply #46 on: October 03, 2011, 11:46:57 PM »
Well, if you put it that way, I'm more than willing to fill the role of diviner. A simple rogue/wizard/unseen ser/divine oracle build will do the trick.

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Re: Anyone want to run an All-Wizard game?
« Reply #47 on: October 03, 2011, 11:47:43 PM »
I thought Flay was going Illusionist, or something along those lines at least. I'm currently contemplating a Transmuter War Weaver but am not set on it yet. I was considering a Dweomerkeeper earlier, but thought we wanted to keep it to specialists wizards/themed lists. So that is another option.

I'm not sure what else anyone has stated they wanted to give a try. I'll look closer at Dweomerkeeper since I never got to actually play one, the one I built never hit the PrC before the game blew up. Plus it will give us some healing.
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Re: Anyone want to run an All-Wizard game?
« Reply #48 on: October 03, 2011, 11:56:37 PM »
Well, if you put it that way, I'm more than willing to fill the role of diviner. A simple rogue/wizard/unseen ser/divine oracle build will do the trick.

My favorite unseen seer is to use swordsage and assassin's stance for the sneak attack and other shadow hand fun.  Earth dreamer and Dream dwarf also combine well with that stuff.
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Re: Anyone want to run an All-Wizard game?
« Reply #49 on: October 03, 2011, 11:57:19 PM »
I thought Flay was going Illusionist, or something along those lines at least. I'm currently contemplating a Transmuter War Weaver but am not set on it yet. I was considering a Dweomerkeeper earlier, but thought we wanted to keep it to specialists wizards/themed lists. So that is another option.

I'm not sure what else anyone has stated they wanted to give a try. I'll look closer at Dweomerkeeper since I never got to actually play one, the one I built never hit the PrC before the game blew up. Plus it will give us some healing.

Transmuter War Weaver Incantatrix FTW.  Persist buffs through the tapestry!

And if you really want healing, Arcane Disciple (Healing) would do it...
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Re: Anyone want to run an All-Wizard game?
« Reply #50 on: October 04, 2011, 12:00:49 AM »
That force weaver looks pretty cool.

All in all I think I'll be a blaster sorcerer kobold who uses some cheese to stay in there and relevant. I think if I add that ritual to get +1 sorc level casting I can fit in Sorc 3/Force Weaver 2/War Mage 1. To get +2 to my damage dies, and cast 4 Missiles at a time for 4d4+12 damage with that spell. Which means atm, I'll be using Scorching Rays instead.
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Re: Anyone want to run an All-Wizard game?
« Reply #51 on: October 04, 2011, 01:02:23 AM »
I thought Flay was going Illusionist, or something along those lines at least.
If the DM is okay with the inherent crazy shenanigans illusions present, then I'm going that. If not, maybe a god, but I'd rather have a fun theme, so I'd have to think on it.

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Re: Anyone want to run an All-Wizard game?
« Reply #52 on: October 04, 2011, 01:07:41 AM »
hey dna1, how do you want to handle (a) spellbooks, and (b) summoning lists?
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Re: Anyone want to run an All-Wizard game?
« Reply #53 on: October 04, 2011, 01:14:17 AM »
Are you guys full of players?
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Re: Anyone want to run an All-Wizard game?
« Reply #54 on: October 04, 2011, 01:18:24 AM »
I'm not thinking of any interesting metamagic combos that would fit here as a dweomerkeeper. I'm wanting to do more than dmm persist a ton of stuff. The other thought right now is sapphire heirophant and going all judge dread. I just have too many meh ideas and nothing that is  both powerful enough and interesting.
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Re: Anyone want to run an All-Wizard game?
« Reply #55 on: October 04, 2011, 01:27:33 AM »
Well, you could go gish with JPM & Abjurant Champion... or you could go Cerebremancer or Mind Mage... or you could play a domain wizard with the Incarnum Domain into Soulcaster and once you get to 8th level spells you could cast Incarnum Apotheosis so your Midnight Metamagic feat is always full...
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Re: Anyone want to run an All-Wizard game?
« Reply #56 on: October 04, 2011, 01:36:49 AM »
OR, you could play a "I'm going to fuck with everyone else" guy.  There's a bunch of ways to do this -- counterspelling, Incantatrix for metamagic effect and Sculpt Spell to make their stuff useless, lots of debuffs and enchantments, antimagic fields... that sort of thing.

EDIT: If anyone's interested, here's my Malconvoker (no equipment or spellbook yet).  If anyone has more info on the Cansin than just stat adjustments, I'd appreciate it.  I think it's from Dragon 297.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2011, 01:40:39 AM by sirpercival »
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Re: Anyone want to run an All-Wizard game?
« Reply #57 on: October 04, 2011, 03:17:45 AM »
I asked Dna1 and I hadn't realized it was a Co-dm'ed event.
What I wanted you all to consider and to find out if the SirPercival and Dna1 would allow my Revised Sorcerer, I took a lot of time working on it and at first I was just hoping someone would be interested in trying it out. Though if there are slots I would be willing to play it myself, I'm just trying to get some press for the thing and see how well its plays. Would you mind terribly indulging me?
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Re: Anyone want to run an All-Wizard game?
« Reply #58 on: October 04, 2011, 03:27:35 AM »
Do you have info on it?
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Re: Anyone want to run an All-Wizard game?
« Reply #59 on: October 04, 2011, 04:10:28 AM »
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