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Re: Monster Game - Interest?
« Reply #140 on: September 27, 2011, 10:20:35 PM »
And equipping a dragon is a bitch unless this is an actual rule, come this campaign. Would it be unreasonable to assume magic items resize themselves, when I warp between forms? Yeah, the wings would mean no shirts unless they were like harnesses (wow, winged child wearing harnesses.... this could get weird fast...), and boots would have to be some sandal or something...

That's suported by dracomicon so yes. They give examples like an helm becoming a skullcap, robes over the shoulders, vests draped around its wings and lower chest, holed gloves to make room for the claws, bands on the hips instead of belts, boots with holes for the claws, etc.

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Re: Monster Game - Interest?
« Reply #141 on: September 27, 2011, 10:28:29 PM »
You think you have issues equipping a Dragon? I have a creature that is literally a glowing ball about a foot in diameter. It's quite annoying. Especially as I can't get any good armor-stuffs without doubling the price. At least you're humanoid. (And, having just occurred to me, how am I supposed to effectively carry stuff.....and I really don't want a harness. Probably spring for a modified bag of holding....)

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« Reply #142 on: September 27, 2011, 10:50:05 PM »
My character will probably be a bit on the low side of the power spectrum, but whatever.

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« Reply #143 on: September 27, 2011, 11:04:11 PM »
You think you have issues equipping a Dragon? I have a creature that is literally a glowing ball about a foot in diameter. It's quite annoying. Especially as I can't get any good armor-stuffs without doubling the price. At least you're humanoid. (And, having just occurred to me, how am I supposed to effectively carry stuff.....and I really don't want a harness. Probably spring for a modified bag of holding....)
I'm sure you can find a decent homebrew alternative to VoP. :P

When are we looking at kicking this thing off, anyway? I have a pretty good build skeleton going, with some backstory also, but haven't started putting it all together in a character sheet yet.
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A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?

Sounds like the makings of a gay porn film.
...thanks
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Re: Monster Game - Interest?
« Reply #144 on: September 27, 2011, 11:07:41 PM »
You think you have issues equipping a Dragon? I have a creature that is literally a glowing ball about a foot in diameter. It's quite annoying. Especially as I can't get any good armor-stuffs without doubling the price. At least you're humanoid. (And, having just occurred to me, how am I supposed to effectively carry stuff.....and I really don't want a harness. Probably spring for a modified bag of holding....)
I'm sure you can find a decent homebrew alternative to VoP. :P
Doesn't stuff just float around/as part of you? I swear I saw that on a monster class that was formless, pretty sure it was oslecamo's stuff though I could be very well wrong, I suppose.

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« Reply #145 on: September 27, 2011, 11:11:05 PM »
Sorry my sheet doesn't have ny background/personality on it yet, I ended up having to go in to work for a couple hours or it'd be on there. I already have it planned so no worries on that. Suffice it to say, there's a reason the sheet it named the "woman in white" so expect a fair amount of betrayed ghost-lady flavor. :D

Two more questions regarding feats:
1) Can I modify Cold Focus from frostburn so it affects the Snowscaper's powers? If not I understand, there are just very few feats that interact with Su abilities.

2) Can I modify the Abyssal heritor feats into Spectral heritor feats, removing the demonic flavor in favor of ghostly flavor? I've got some ideas to make them much more appropriate for the Son/Daughter of Silence than demonic heritage, and I can PM them to you or post them here. Mainly I figure that basing them off Abyssal heritor feats would allow more balance than just statting up feats with the things I want, since their power level is dependent on how many of the feats in the group you have, and they come with drawbacks.

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Re: Monster Game - Interest?
« Reply #146 on: September 27, 2011, 11:32:29 PM »
Yah, I can get them in the form of "Ethereal orbs" that float around me, but that doubles the price. Which is annoying.

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« Reply #147 on: September 27, 2011, 11:46:07 PM »
When are we looking at kicking this thing off, anyway? I have a pretty good build skeleton going, with some backstory also, but haven't started putting it all together in a character sheet yet.

Still waiting on the requested forum on plothook, it usually takes a couple of days.

Another vampire disclaimer, if you didn't burn the preqreuisite feats of the ritual, then you'll be under the bond of a vampire NPC, that sooner or later will come and ask for some service. You only have 3 feats listed now (out of a possible 7 with the bonus EWP) so not sure if you intend to take the vampire prerequisite feats or no.

Two more questions regarding feats:
1) Can I modify Cold Focus from frostburn so it affects the Snowscaper's powers? If not I understand, there are just very few feats that interact with Su abilities.
Yes.

2) Can I modify the Abyssal heritor feats into Spectral heritor feats, removing the demonic flavor in favor of ghostly flavor? I've got some ideas to make them much more appropriate for the Son/Daughter of Silence than demonic heritage, and I can PM them to you or post them here. Mainly I figure that basing them off Abyssal heritor feats would allow more balance than just statting up feats with the things I want, since their power level is dependent on how many of the feats in the group you have, and they come with drawbacks.
K, but please don't say they're because you have ghost ancestors. Say something like you're really bonded with the world of the dead or really old or something like that. :p


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Re: Monster Game - Interest?
« Reply #148 on: September 27, 2011, 11:59:04 PM »
Here's the current version of Tenth: http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=332499

I had the same issues with equipment for a shapechanger.  Amulet, bracers, and an animated shield to the rescue.

I like the way it turned out, sort of like a Master Transmogrifist by using Change Shape and Psychic Combine.
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Re: Monster Game - Interest?
« Reply #149 on: September 28, 2011, 12:35:11 AM »
Alright, so a wand of Mage Armor with an 8 hr duration (standard day) is 6k, and has 50 charges. About two months of adventuring is cool, but we may not go through 50 charges, so I was looking at making some sort of wonderous, use-activated item that might do me.

He doesn't always need the armor (watch me get bitten in the ass for THAT statement), so I figure a 1 CL mage armor, last for an hour, is fine. That being said, whipping out a wand every time there's combat so someone can cast it is a pain in the ass. I figured a ring of it, so I can activate it ala frodo's invisibility ring except with a command word or something (in draconic or primordial? I think so!) might be cool, and a dragon would probably have some pimp bling like that, so I looked at the estimating values table, and hit a snag.

A use-activated item, taking a standard time to activate of a standard action (har har) is (Spell level × caster level × 2,000) gp, and a spell in hours/level doesn't get divided by anything for lower cost. That would make it 2k, but that seemed like it might be too cheap to fly. So I went with the tactic of finding something of similar value. Now, a ring of protection +4 is 32,000 gp, but is first of all CL5 instead of 1 so harder to dispell, constantly active instead of use-activated, so I'm not ure it could be dispelled anyways (only a minor difference, since with a use-activated ring I'd probably just have to keep burning standard actions to reuse), and also a deflection bonus which stacks with more armor bonuses. So a CL 1 mage armor ring probably wont be worth near the same.

Not so simple a question as I'd hoped, I'd now rather just ask the DM with my research laid out; will it fly, how much would it cost me, or would a few hours/level wand version and nagging my companions every three hours be a better idea? I kind of like the idea of a ring from which I conjure ghostly armor by waving my hand and invoking my ancestors power, or saying a badass draconic word or something, but if it feels cheesy I'll go the simple route.

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Re: Monster Game - Interest?
« Reply #150 on: September 28, 2011, 12:39:03 AM »
Wand bracer to use it from, bracers of armor (ew), ring of force shield or whatever that is that is paired rings of force, ectoplasmic skins are also options. I personally favor the last one.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
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« Reply #151 on: September 28, 2011, 12:46:16 AM »
Double-post: Yurgret, the mountainous shape-shifting Ogre is completed
[Spoiler]
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
[/spoiler]

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Re: Monster Game - Interest?
« Reply #152 on: September 28, 2011, 01:21:02 AM »
Taking a ring slot, 2k sounds fair for a piece of bling that summons ghostly armor. Bracers of armor always was kinda overcosted, and ring of protection applies against nasty touch attacks.

McPoyo:Your character looks cool, but there's a detail that really brings it down. Just +1 to Will saves is simply unadmissible at 8th level unless you have some mind-affecting immunity around there I missed. I strongly recommend you swaping one of your feats for Steadfast determination (PHB II) to get Con to will saves.


Gnomeo:Ok,looks good at first glance.

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Re: Monster Game - Interest?
« Reply #153 on: September 28, 2011, 01:24:14 AM »
Damnit, I've been trying to figure out what I had forgotten for two days, and that's what it was.

edit: Two feats, actually. Endurance as pre-req.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2011, 01:33:06 AM by McPoyo »
[Spoiler]
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
[/spoiler]

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Re: Monster Game - Interest?
« Reply #154 on: September 28, 2011, 02:28:04 AM »
K, but please don't say they're because you have ghost ancestors. Say something like you're really bonded with the world of the dead or really old or something like that. :p

Haha, nothing as silly like that. Just about anyone could have ghost ancestors after all. :P

I posted the Spectral Heritor feats to a separate thread here: Spectral Heritor feats.

I don't plan on taking all of them should you approve, but I got kind of carried-away when writing them up.  :D

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Re: Monster Game - Interest?
« Reply #155 on: September 28, 2011, 02:43:06 AM »
K my character should be done.. if theres any questions or things I missed, or if you want my back ground changed or anything lemme know

The Big T

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This is included in my character btw.
The Lich King of the Northern Mountains was old and strong. He had magic that could oppose the UCB and Magedom. His fortune vast, his minions near endless. It was a rare thing for the Lich to be so lively about something. The retainers close to him didnt know if they should be fearfull or not. Something was different with the wise old Lich today. News arrived that made him very excited, he was prepairing to teleport out of his lair. Something almost never done. But the Lich did leave, and he took his most trusted servants with him. Those at the lair dont know exactly what happened. No one can say for sure except the Lich King him self. Although, some whisper. They say that day the Lich returned with a creature. It was hidden and wrapped in ruin covered cloth. After that the King spent alot of time hidden. When he finally reappeared to his court he had a fearsome beast. A creature that none could identify. At first it seemed like a dog beast. Twisted by the Liches dark magic, but as it grew, those who are smart could tell that this was something different entirely.
That was almost a year ago...

So OOC my character is a clone of the Original Big T. What I figured for my background is the Lich, although powerfull, was not able to control the big T obviously. But he did manage to clone it.
So my PC is still only 1 year old. I want to play her like a dragon hatchling or young puppy almost. She is Chaotic Neutral. Not really evil per se, but loves violence. As she grows and more of her natural big T qualities come out she is starting to get more vicious. She actually has no clue of what she really is, and looks to the Lich as a type of parental figure. Other characters that she adventures with will probly be treated as a pack mate/sibling after they gain her trust. She is extremely loyal to the Lich, so anyone who seems to be in good favor with the King she will naturally like.
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Re: Monster Game - Interest?
« Reply #156 on: September 28, 2011, 02:58:03 AM »
Background, Description, and Personality filled in. Gonna finish up equipment, and once I hear back on feats, I should be done.

Link, for reference:
Meveri Weissen, the Woman in White
History:[spoiler]
Meveri Weissen was born to parents of privilege. However, the familial bliss was not to last long. Her parents' wealth was her mother's inheritance, and her father was prone to drunkenness, gambling, and bouts of angry abuse. After losing the last of his wife's fortune, he brought her and their baby into the forest to escape their debtors, only to abandon them in the frigid winter weather to save his own skin. Heartbroken and freezing, Meveri's mother clutched her child close in the hopes that her bodily warmth would last enough to keep her child alive until someone found her. She failed.

Except, she only mostly failed. The mother's warmth gave out long before the child was found. Her spirit, however, protected Meveri, keeping her an inch from death. The emotions from this betrayal kept Meveri's mother strong, but ultimately she sacrificed her own vengeance so that her daughter would survive to see that this terrible deed never occur again. The mother infused her daughter with her spirit, and when a lone woodsman discovered the girl still alive, but rather than find the baby crying out, it was silent. Completely silent, with a disturbing gleam behind its eyes...

Meveri grew up running away from dozens of benefactors' homes, only staying long enough to avoid starving to death. She had more than her share of run-ins with the authorities, but strangely, no prison could hold her. Wherever she went, stories sprang up about the 'Girl in White', and then eventually the 'Woman in White.' It wasn't long before dark forces noticed her special gift, and approached her for her services. In exchange for providing the chance to exact the vengeance she was compelled to perform and for being trained in how to use her powers, Meveri would perform certain other tasks. She was more than willing to comply.[/spoiler]

Also trying to decide between CN and NE. I keep flip-flopping between the two. :)
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Re: Monster Game - Interest?
« Reply #157 on: September 28, 2011, 05:26:56 AM »
Can we add the Hunger domain to the vampire deity Kanchelsis? If he'd been reprinted in Libris Mortis, I'm sure he'd have gotten it... I'd like that to be one of my cleric/weapon's domains. I could just switch deities to Afflux, but would really rather stay with Kanchelsis for flavor reasons.
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A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?

Sounds like the makings of a gay porn film.
...thanks
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Re: Monster Game - Interest?
« Reply #158 on: September 28, 2011, 05:45:54 AM »
I suppose I ought to ask for the sake of it, but would this feat be acceptable? For the reasons being discussed in the advice thread I started, specifically so I can communicate with the party and so I can target things via mindsight if need be while hiding in objects (with the caveat that I assume mind blank, et al, blocks mindsight). I'm planning on Meveri hiding in statues and walls and such when she needs to sleep, or to scare peasants and such. :P

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If we're being completely honest here, I don't really care about mindsight, except as a way of seeing/sensing things while I hide in objects. I can probably do without that for a while and just use the "poke outside of the object" rules, though I'd rather not do that for long. Maybe I'll just buy the blindfold of true darkness for now anyway...
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Re: Monster Game - Interest?
« Reply #159 on: September 28, 2011, 07:18:23 AM »
Selirath

Crunch is done, I'm still working on background/personality, and will post that tomorrow.
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