Learning Wizard Spells as a Wizard

[kitep]

Assuming you're stuck actually having to scribe spells into your book, the quill of rapid scrivening (DMG pg. 270) drops the scribe time down to 10 minutes (you still have to have deciphered the spell first, which is automatic with read magic). Unfortunately, by the RAW it only works for scribing spells from a scroll and it only applies to spells on the Wizard spell list, but it's still a huge help. It does cost 27,000 gp, however.

fyi: it's in DMG 2.  I appreciate you posting the book and page number, but was scratching my head when I couldn't find it.

Interesting item.  I don't know why I've never looked thru the magic items in this book - though the prices will stop me from buying most of them.

[Echoes]

Assuming you're stuck actually having to scribe spells into your book, the quill of rapid scrivening (DMG pg. 270) drops the scribe time down to 10 minutes (you still have to have deciphered the spell first, which is automatic with read magic). Unfortunately, by the RAW it only works for scribing spells from a scroll and it only applies to spells on the Wizard spell list, but it's still a huge help. It does cost 27,000 gp, however.

fyi: it's in DMG 2.  I appreciate you posting the book and page number, but was scratching my head when I couldn't find it.

Interesting item.  I don't know why I've never looked thru the magic items in this book - though the prices will stop me from buying most of them.

Yeah, thanks. I completely forgot to add the 2. I blame posting while sleepy. I'll edit my post.

[nijineko]

there is always the dedicated wight option for having it do your work while you are away elsewhere.

[weenog]

So do what the resourceful do when in a rush and lacking funds, skip the buying and just steal the thing from someone.

[Aharon]

@Echoes
Bb..But you sell that at first level to generate funds!!

(You're right, of course   )

[Echoes]

there is always the dedicated wight option for having it do your work while you are away elsewhere.

Unfortunately, Dedicated Wrights only help with item creation. They can't scribe spells for you.

[PhaedrusXY]

there is always the dedicated wight option for having it do your work while you are away elsewhere.

Unfortunately, Dedicated Wrights only help with item creation. They can't scribe spells for you.

But scrolls are magic items. Is there some specific prohibition/restriction against them making scrolls?

[X-Codes]

I believe there was something other than the quill in the DMG 2 that did a similar task but much more efficiently gold-wise.  Maybe it didn't actually reduce the necessary time, but simply fulfilled the same role as the Dedicated Wright does for item crafting: it scribes it without you being there.

[Phoenix00]

If you take tome of ancient lore as your 9th level feat, can't you just prepare the spell, and then use the DMG2 Quill of Rapid Scrivening to add it to your spellbook in only 10 minutes?  Tome of Ancient Lore (mic is most recent version) is a relic which if you take as a 9th level feat gives you all the arcane spells in the universe, you can use the relic to prepare any arcane spell of 1 level lower than your max spell level or 50% chance to prepare any spell level of the same level of your max spell level?

[Tr011]

If you take tome of ancient lore as your 9th level feat, can't you just prepare the spell, and then use the DMG2 Quill of Rapid Scrivening to add it to your spellbook in only 10 minutes?  Tome of Ancient Lore (mic is most recent version) is a relic which if you take as a 9th level feat gives you all the arcane spells in the universe, you can use the relic to prepare any arcane spell of 1 level lower than your max spell level or 50% chance to prepare any spell level of the same level of your max spell level?

Think that may work, thanks.

Especially the Quill really helps a lot. But I don't get that Dedicated Wright option.

[spacemonkey555]

The quill is sadly specific, it only copies spells from scrolls.

Dedicated wrights craft magic items for you, you just spend an hour to get it started and come back when the item is finished. You could prepare the spell, have a wright craft the scroll, then use the quill on it, but at that point you're acquiring a dedicated wright, a relic, spending a feat or 2, and then spending xp and gold on each spell, just to save time on scribing. If you got the spells free from the relic it isn't as bad, I guess. Seems kind of like a Rube Goldberg solution to the problem, but then maybe your DM likes complicated solutions that give a wizard access to every possible wizard spell as a side effect. 

Dedicated Wright is in ECS under homunculus, it and the quill are both handy even if you don't use them for copying newly acquired spells.

[Tr011]

That Dedicated Wright is very useful if I can fabricate his body, use some sort of Craft-Construct-variant of the Dwarven Forge (Races of Stone) and then let the Dedicated Wright craft more constructs at my tower all night. Thanks for that one.

[Echoes]

there is always the dedicated wight option for having it do your work while you are away elsewhere.

Unfortunately, Dedicated Wrights only help with item creation. They can't scribe spells for you.

But scrolls are magic items. Is there some specific prohibition/restriction against them making scrolls?

I think you're confused. Someone mentioned having the dedicated wright scribe the spells into your spellbook for you, which doesn't work because scribing spells isn't item creation, which is all dedicated wrights can do.

[Foxwander]

A polymorphed simulacrum is the answer to your spell-scribing needs!  

Step 1- Use Simulacrum to make a duplicate of yourself.  As a (lower powered) version of yourself you should have no need to "decipher" any spells it scribes.

Step 2-  Use Polymorph Any Object to change your simulacrum into a Raggamoffyn (MM2, p. 174).  Same class (mineral), size and lower Int = permanent effect.  Have it use it's Control Host ability on sleeping wizards and sorcerers (no will save if you're unconscious) to gain spell-casting lackeys via the Captured One template (MM2, p. 204).

Step 3- Have it scribe all the spells it's captured into your spellbook while sitting in your Enveloping Pit.

Step 4- Profit. Literally. Sell all the extra spellbooks it can generate for you. Never mind- see below.

[X-Codes]

I believe it still costs money to scribe the spells into the book in the first place, so it might not be practical to scribe them for profit.

[Foxwander]

I believe it still costs money to scribe the spells into the book in the first place, so it might not be practical to scribe them for profit.

Not if you use craft to make your own ink. Or use Fabricate to to gen up several gallons of it.

[X-Codes]

I believe it still costs money to scribe the spells into the book in the first place, so it might not be practical to scribe them for profit.

Not if you use craft to make your own ink. Or use Fabricate to to gen up several gallons of it.

It'd be more efficient to just sell the Ink, then.

[Foxwander]

It'd be more efficient to just sell the Ink, then.

Huh!  That would be more efficient.  That means the spells in a spellbook effectively have NO VALUE.  In fact, they just lessen the value of the ink!   That is just fucked up!!

Well- you could still charge wizards a fee to copy spells from what will soon be an impressive spell library.  You can charge 50 gold per spell level for that.

But a Sim turned Raggamoffyn still makes a pretty good spell copying resource.

[Bauglir]

The trick with Fabricate is also that it requires 100 gp worth of ink per page, so no matter how cheaply and efficiently you obtain your ink, you gain nothing. Using Fabricate presumably means that your book is composed of 99% ink and 1% paper.

D&D's economy. Yeah.