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What Games to review
« on: May 13, 2008, 06:42:35 AM »
We have talked about many different games on the podcast.  What games would you like reviewed?

We plan on Definitely reviewing the following games:

Savage Worlds
Burning Wheel
Essoterrorists
Serenity

What else would you like to hear?  Or what would you like to hear first?
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Re: What Games to review
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2008, 06:48:01 PM »
Haven't you already "reviewed" Serenity??? :eh
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Re: What Games to review
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2008, 08:34:34 PM »
I want to do the Serenity Review, with some comments from Josh to present another side, but to have actual concrete, objective review not just a "it sucks". 
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Re: What Games to review
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2008, 03:00:02 AM »
Paranoia.  :D
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Re: What Games to review
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2008, 03:10:51 AM »
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Re: What Games to review
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2008, 07:49:51 AM »
Paranoia.  :D

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Re: What Games to review
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2008, 08:19:01 AM »
I want to do the Serenity Review, with some comments from Josh to present another side, but to have actual concrete, objective review not just a "it sucks". 

"It sucks" is objective but unclear.  What I mean to say is that the quality of the game is low enough that one can consider it to be without merit.  The asymptote to zero.   

What is good about the game?  Margret Weiss and Jamie Chambers have an adequate grasp of grammar and syntax. 

This book makes me ashamed as a gamer that browncoats see this and think it represents gaming.  The game is a hunk of crap that I would not waste a thought on, except for the fact that it is Serenity and I really like Serenity.  This book makes me ashamed as a browncoat that someone would trash such an awesome movie. 
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Re: What Games to review
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2008, 09:49:26 PM »
This book makes me ashamed as a gamer that browncoats see this and think it represents gaming.
Er, what? What makes you think that Browncoats think this is definitive gaming as Firefly is to definitive Sci-Fi? Do you not think that TV viewers understand 'cashing in'?
Do you beleive that Firefly is (the whole of) TV?
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Re: What Games to review
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2008, 10:27:47 PM »
I think Josh is speaking from experience in that we are both members of the New England Browncoats of which there are close to 500 members, monthly meetings, group vacations, the whole bit.  When Serenity RPG came out, many used it to game for the very first time.  There is a small group of gamers in the group, but many more played Serenity and now equate that with what an RPG is. 

But, regardless, I'm gathering notes to prepare a detailed review. 
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Re: What Games to review
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2008, 12:33:32 AM »
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But, regardless, I'm gathering notes to prepare a detailed review.
In spite of (??) my comments I eagerly await your review.
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Re: What Games to review
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2008, 05:31:55 AM »
Shock - I believe it's one of those pass the stick types
The "Something" of the Century game you have mentioned several times.

The new World of Darkness ruleset. A proper review as opposed to "It sucks"

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Re: What Games to review
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2008, 08:49:38 AM »
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Shock - I believe it's one of those pass the stick types
The more I hear the term “pass the stick” the more I think “somebody ought to make a term up.”
Shock is to some people a PTS game.  The problem is that PTS does not actually describe how you play.  In a game like “Don't rest your head” when you come to a conflict you roll off and whoever wins the roll, gets the talking stick and they get to say what happens.  Shock is different because you play a character with the guy to your left as GM, two people talking.  Then you set up a double conflict and roll dice.  You never get a talking stick, a time when you can narrate. 

If PTS means “story game” then the answer is yes.  But PTS does not actually describe gameplay.  I would love to do a review of shock, so it goes on the list.

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The "Something" of the Century game you have mentioned several times.
Spirit of the Century, we can manage that as well.

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The new World of Darkness ruleset. A proper review as opposed to "It sucks"

The new ed of Cyberpunk. Believe it is called "CYBERPUNK V3"
These will probably be far on down the list.  I would rather review games that have some amount of merit for three reasons.  1) I would rather excite people than talk them out of something.  2) They are Tedious reads.  3) It is hard to prove a negative.  It is simple to demonstrate how a game is awesome, not the reverse.  WoD would have never lasted if it was easy to show it sucks.  What you end up doing is trying to show what other games do better and trying to show how Vampire fails to mechanically support its professed genre. 

Poor sad Cyberpunk.  It is the little system that thought it could, but hasn't yet. 
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Re: What Games to review
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2008, 02:47:07 AM »
Star Wars: Saga.
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Re: What Games to review
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2008, 09:16:52 AM »
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Re: What Games to review
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2008, 06:31:24 PM »
How about a review of The Eldritch Role-Playing System?

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Re: What Games to review
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2008, 07:02:28 PM »
I'd be interested in hearing about Savage Worlds. I haven't played it, but am curious about it as I've heard a few good things about it.

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Re: What Games to review
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2008, 07:09:05 PM »
How about a review of The Eldritch Role-Playing System?

I had not heard of this game, I will have to look into it.
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Re: What Games to review
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2008, 07:38:59 PM »
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Re: What Games to review
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2008, 07:58:30 PM »
Will your reviews be limited to roleplaying systems?

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Re: What Games to review
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2008, 10:04:37 PM »
Will your reviews be limited to roleplaying systems?
No, but Roleplaying Systems are not well reviewed around the internet. 

Board games and Card Games are extremely well reviewed, so we are unlikely to review them anytime soon.  But we may do other things with them.

As for supplements to RPGs, I think once we get the Systems reviewed we will start looking into them. 

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