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Re: Regeneration
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2011, 11:25:22 AM »
Bit of a derail, but I really really hate FC II for cramming this crap into D&D. The whole evil = going to Baator thing flies in the face of every element of D&D cosmology.

It's a shame, too, because I really like a lot of the fluff otherwise. It's just the blatant Christian bias that pisses me off.
Uhh... souls have always gone to the plane that matches their alignment in D&D cosmology. Did this really change that somehow? It wouldn't be a surprise if it was biased towards Baator, as it is a book about Baator, right?
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Re: Regeneration
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2011, 12:24:51 PM »
Bit of a derail, but I really really hate FC II for cramming this crap into D&D. The whole evil = going to Baator thing flies in the face of every element of D&D cosmology.

It's a shame, too, because I really like a lot of the fluff otherwise. It's just the blatant Christian bias that pisses me off.
Uhh... souls have always gone to the plane that matches their alignment in D&D cosmology. Did this really change that somehow? It wouldn't be a surprise if it was biased towards Baator, as it is a book about Baator, right?

All Evil people now go to Baator Hell according to FC II. It doesn't matter if you were a CE Cleric of Erythnul, you go to Hell, not Pandemonium. That is what flies in the face of the D&D cosmology: according to the FC II, it doesn't matter which Evil deity you followed or even what your alignment was - if you were Evil, you get sent to the Nine Hells.

Edit: Scratch that, I was wrong. I misread the rules for Corruption. Nothing to see here. *innocent whistle*
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Re: Regeneration
« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2011, 10:41:56 PM »
So could we perhaps make the guess that after going through this grueling process the specimen would immediately go bat-shit crazy and murder everyone around him in an attempt to escape?

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Re: Regeneration
« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2011, 11:12:48 PM »
So could we perhaps make the guess that after going through this grueling process the specimen would immediately go bat-shit crazy and murder everyone around him in an attempt to escape?
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Re: Regeneration
« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2011, 02:08:23 AM »
Bit of a derail, but I really really hate FC II for cramming this crap into D&D. The whole evil = going to Baator thing flies in the face of every element of D&D cosmology.

It's a shame, too, because I really like a lot of the fluff otherwise. It's just the blatant Christian bias that pisses me off.
Uhh... souls have always gone to the plane that matches their alignment in D&D cosmology. Did this really change that somehow? It wouldn't be a surprise if it was biased towards Baator, as it is a book about Baator, right?
It's not that, it's the 'cast deathwatch a few times, be damned forever regardless of what you do'.
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Re: Regeneration
« Reply #45 on: August 20, 2011, 03:38:17 AM »
Bit of a derail, but I really really hate FC II for cramming this crap into D&D. The whole evil = going to Baator thing flies in the face of every element of D&D cosmology.

It's a shame, too, because I really like a lot of the fluff otherwise. It's just the blatant Christian bias that pisses me off.
Uhh... souls have always gone to the plane that matches their alignment in D&D cosmology. Did this really change that somehow? It wouldn't be a surprise if it was biased towards Baator, as it is a book about Baator, right?
It's not that, it's the 'cast deathwatch a few times, be damned forever regardless of what you do'.
+2

Debates on Alignment jumped from stupid-retarded trolling to almost four levels below that.
"Good Liches and using Evil for Good? Those are variant rules, the real rules say you're damned within a minute using [whatever]."

On the other hand, Cleric's will have a use outside of walking bandage. The just need Profession(apology letter writer) ranks and to stock pile Atonement spells. Or you know, just join Team Evil. We kick ass and barely ask questions about your motives and there is no such thing as a moral complication to us.
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Re: Regeneration
« Reply #46 on: August 20, 2011, 03:42:07 AM »
Of course, I apply the opening 'this is devil propoganda' to the entire book, rather than just the first chapter.  Which improves it by about five notches or so.
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Re: Regeneration
« Reply #47 on: August 20, 2011, 06:00:10 PM »
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Or you know, just join Team Evil. We kick ass and barely ask questions about your motives and there is no such thing as a moral complication to us.
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