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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #680 on: September 14, 2011, 12:20:36 AM »
Ranger 2/Warblade 3 works great and has the same IL as Warblade 4/Ranger 1.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #681 on: September 14, 2011, 12:25:40 AM »
Unfortunately, I am taking half IL for another 5 levels (for Revenant Blade).  I am trying for IL 17.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #682 on: September 14, 2011, 12:35:46 AM »
Q. 202
Can anybody help me reach the following requirements by level 5, without losing more than 1 initiator level?  I can manage with flaws, but am desperately trying to find some way without them.  Ranger 1/Warblade 4 leaves me a feat short, and while I could have sworn there was a fighter alternate with hide/move silently as a class skill, I can't seem to find it now.


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Race: Elf
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There is a fighter variant that does that. It's the targetteer from dragon 310. You lose martial weapon abilities to gain exotic ranged weapons.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #683 on: September 14, 2011, 12:44:53 AM »
Could also take Bloodline levels, even one would give you +2 or 3 IL depending on the number of classes you have.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #684 on: September 14, 2011, 05:13:04 AM »
Edit: Q205 I know this is UNFORGIVABLY cheesy, but could a Martial Monk theoretically at level 1 grab a level 3 maneuver/stance of any martial discipline?

Because of the lack of prerequisites necessary to gain the feat, all you'd have to do is meet the prerequisite for the maneuver, which counts itself...

Level 2 they'd able to take a maneuver/stance of the same discipline up to 6th level... Which would mean they could psyref/retrain the first feat into another 6th level maneuver of that discipline...

At level 6, they could have 3 maneuvers/stances up to 8th level... I know I'd get a book thrown at me, but is it possible?
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #685 on: September 14, 2011, 06:45:39 AM »
Q 204:  What methods exist for boosting the saving throw DCs of martial maneuvers?
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #686 on: September 14, 2011, 12:18:32 PM »
Q 204:  What methods exist for boosting the saving throw DCs of martial maneuvers?
Blade Meditiation, boosting the relevant ability score, and Master of Nine 3 are all that I can think of.  Maybe Ability Focus in a particular maneuver.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #687 on: September 14, 2011, 02:10:02 PM »
If the manuever's DC is CHA based, Monster of Legend can give you a +4 to the DC.  And I think the Saint template will give you another +2 to any supernatural manuever's DC.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #688 on: September 14, 2011, 03:46:42 PM »
Q 205: The Wild Hunter errata for Expedition to the Demonweb Pits has a 20 HD fey with 16 Str getting a +16 to hit with non-masterwork weapons.  Any idea how it's pulling that off?  I see +13 to hit from a +10 BAB and +3 Str.  It has no weapon-specific feats.

Did they just flub this one, or am I missing something?

In theory, he should get a +1 to hit with melee because while mounted he's on "higher ground."
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #689 on: September 14, 2011, 03:51:36 PM »
They probably just messed up.  If you use the 18 DEX (as if it could use Weapon Finesse on those weapons?), and include +1 to hit from "higher ground" for being mounted that gets you up to +15 at least.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #690 on: September 14, 2011, 03:52:04 PM »
Q 205: The Wild Hunter errata for Expedition to the Demonweb Pits has a 20 HD fey with 16 Str getting a +16 to hit with non-masterwork weapons.  Any idea how it's pulling that off?  I see +13 to hit from a +10 BAB and +3 Str.  It has no weapon-specific feats.

Did they just flub this one, or am I missing something?

In theory, he should get a +1 to hit with melee because while mounted he's on "higher ground."
I'd say they flubbed it. I didn't even notice that before. I just accepted it as is, and ran with it in my game. Weird.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #691 on: September 14, 2011, 03:55:26 PM »

I'd say they flubbed it. I didn't even notice that before. I just accepted it as is, and ran with it in my game. Weird.
I've used it in my game too; but my PC's merely interacted with it - they were protected from it by an ancient agreement.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #692 on: September 14, 2011, 03:57:01 PM »

I'd say they flubbed it. I didn't even notice that before. I just accepted it as is, and ran with it in my game. Weird.
I've used it in my game too; but my PC's merely interacted with it - they were protected from it by an ancient agreement.
I actually advanced mine with a couple of fighter levels when they met mine. They had to fight it and be involved with the Wild Hunt.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #693 on: September 14, 2011, 03:58:42 PM »
Q206  Epic Level questions :  You are a lvl 20 Fighter, you gain xp etc to gain lvl 21 then you decide to become a lvl 1 druid ... now you have the lvl 1 Druid goodies less the BaB and Saves and Animal companion so says the manual ...

You gain exp to add another 2 lvls and decide on Druid3 ... now you cast spells as a 3rd lvl druid now, BUT you do not gain more spells per day than the ones given at 1st lvl ??? so you cant access 2nd lvl spells ever?

is this correct interpretation of the rules?


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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #694 on: September 14, 2011, 04:00:53 PM »
Q206  Epic Level questions :  You are a lvl 20 Fighter, you gain xp etc to gain lvl 21 then you decide to become a lvl 1 druid ... now you have the lvl 1 Druid goodies less the BaB and Saves and Animal companion so says the manual ...

You gain exp to add another 2 lvls and decide on Druid3 ... now you cast spells as a 3rd lvl druid now, BUT you do not gain more spells per day than the ones given at 1st lvl ??? so you cant access 2nd lvl spells ever?

is this correct interpretation of the rules?
That is incorrect. You go up as a 3rd level druid would. What you're referring to is what happens to druids, wizards, and other spellcasters who already have their 9th level spells. For them, they have to take feats to open up slots for their 10th level. Unless you're a paladin or ranger, in which case you open it up for 5th.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #695 on: September 14, 2011, 04:04:52 PM »
Q206  Epic Level questions :  You are a lvl 20 Fighter, you gain xp etc to gain lvl 21 then you decide to become a lvl 1 druid ... now you have the lvl 1 Druid goodies less the BaB and Saves and Animal companion so says the manual ...

You gain exp to add another 2 lvls and decide on Druid3 ... now you cast spells as a 3rd lvl druid now, BUT you do not gain more spells per day than the ones given at 1st lvl ??? so you cant access 2nd lvl spells ever?

is this correct interpretation of the rules?


No. You'd get everything a 1st level druid would get, except BAB and saving throw advancement, and all of that stuff would advance as normal with your added druid levels. BAB and saves would advance according to the epic advancement rules.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #696 on: September 14, 2011, 04:11:05 PM »
Q206  Epic Level questions :  You are a lvl 20 Fighter, you gain xp etc to gain lvl 21 then you decide to become a lvl 1 druid ... now you have the lvl 1 Druid goodies less the BaB and Saves and Animal companion so says the manual ...

You gain exp to add another 2 lvls and decide on Druid3 ... now you cast spells as a 3rd lvl druid now, BUT you do not gain more spells per day than the ones given at 1st lvl ??? so you cant access 2nd lvl spells ever?

is this correct interpretation of the rules?


No. You'd get everything a 1st level druid would get, except BAB and saving throw advancement, and all of that stuff would advance as normal with your added druid levels. BAB and saves would advance according to the epic advancement rules.

Thanks!

ok then ... so if a character was lvl 10 Fighter / lvl 10 Wizzy  and at 21 he became 11 wizzy he would still progress spells, and so on until he was Char=30 Wizzy=20 then he would stop per day/access progression and have to take feats to get more spells.


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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #697 on: September 14, 2011, 04:11:47 PM »
Q206  Epic Level questions :  You are a lvl 20 Fighter, you gain xp etc to gain lvl 21 then you decide to become a lvl 1 druid ... now you have the lvl 1 Druid goodies less the BaB and Saves and Animal companion so says the manual ...

You gain exp to add another 2 lvls and decide on Druid3 ... now you cast spells as a 3rd lvl druid now, BUT you do not gain more spells per day than the ones given at 1st lvl ??? so you cant access 2nd lvl spells ever?

is this correct interpretation of the rules?


No. You'd get everything a 1st level druid would get, except BAB and saving throw advancement, and all of that stuff would advance as normal with your added druid levels. BAB and saves would advance according to the epic advancement rules.

Thanks!

ok then ... so if a character was lvl 10 Fighter / lvl 10 Wizzy  and at 21 he became 11 wizzy he would still progress spells, and so on until he was Char=30 Wizzy=20 then he would stop per day/access progression and have to take feats to get more spells.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #698 on: September 14, 2011, 05:55:42 PM »
Q 205: The Wild Hunter ...

Q 207: The aforementioned wild hunter is NE.  I'd like to legitimately make him Neutral or Good, without giving up his cool abilities (so Sanctified Creature is out).  Making him an outsider would also be a plus (I want him to be called via a planar ally effect, as an emissary of Odin).  What are my best "legal" options?

Edit: Crap, Greater Planar Ally only goes up to 18 HD.  This creature, though CR 9, is 20 HD...
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #699 on: September 14, 2011, 06:23:35 PM »
Q 205: The Wild Hunter ...

Q 207: The aforementioned wild hunter is NE.  I'd like to legitimately make him Neutral or Good, without giving up his cool abilities (so Sanctified Creature is out).  Making him an outsider would also be a plus (I want him to be called via a planar ally effect, as an emissary of Odin).  What are my best "legal" options?

Edit: Crap, Greater Planar Ally only goes up to 18 HD.  This creature, though CR 9, is 20 HD...
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As for the HD cap, There's a feat in Races of Faerun that raises the cap on the Planar Binding spells (as does a Malconvoker class feature), but I'm not sure if that's only for the Binding spells or also for the Ally spells offhand.
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