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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2011, 04:25:07 AM »
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #41 on: August 13, 2011, 04:49:35 AM »
Q 15a Can a soulknive half-giant create a large-sized two-handed greatsword mind blind allowing him to do 3d6 a round?
Q 15b Can a soulknife/psychic warrior half-giant with expansion really do 4d6 a round?
And then there's the extra 2d6 damage he does when he blows his focus with psionic weapon.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #42 on: August 13, 2011, 04:57:01 AM »
Q16 When creating a scroll/wand can you opt to create it at a caster level lower than your own?  If not, where do all those CL 1 wands of cure light wounds come from?  Wizard 5 / Cleric 1 NPCs?

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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #43 on: August 13, 2011, 05:28:50 AM »
A15 I don't see why not. What are you getting at here? That 4d6 damage at level 1 is overpowered? Then I beg to differ.

A 16 Yes, but artificers can't.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #44 on: August 13, 2011, 06:18:50 AM »
A15 I don't see why not. What are you getting at here? That 4d6 damage at level 1 is overpowered? Then I beg to differ.

A 16 Yes, but artificers can't.

Well Lv2, but it is more likely 4d6+6 (Avg20). I can imagine some DMs can get a little piffy about their Encounter Monsters getting taken down in one hit each if they are not used to a bit of Optimization =P
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2011, 11:23:27 AM »
A15 I don't see why not. What are you getting at here? That 4d6 damage at level 1 is overpowered? Then I beg to differ.
No, but the player sure does though. He doesn't want to look like he's overshadowing the other players with his 6d6 once a round, and his 4d6 during the others. No one else does anything close to that at 2nd level.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2011, 11:51:09 AM »
A15 I don't see why not. What are you getting at here? That 4d6 damage at level 1 is overpowered? Then I beg to differ.
No, but the player sure does though. He doesn't want to look like he's overshadowing the other players with his 6d6 once a round, and his 4d6 during the others. No one else does anything close to that at 2nd level.
Do you mean no one in the party does that much, or that it's a lot for a 2nd level character in general?  B/c a straightforward Swordsage 1/Rogue 1, or even better something like Rogue 1/Ninja 1 can do about that much w/ TWF on a full attack.  Hell, even a Monk probably could, if you put a few feats into enhancing its unarmed damage.  All that requires a full attack, though. 

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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2011, 12:10:33 PM »
Or a warblade 1 with a stance and a greatsword would come close, beating it with manuevers.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2011, 12:17:35 PM »
A15 I don't see why not. What are you getting at here? That 4d6 damage at level 1 is overpowered? Then I beg to differ.
No, but the player sure does though. He doesn't want to look like he's overshadowing the other players with his 6d6 once a round, and his 4d6 during the others. No one else does anything close to that at 2nd level.
Do you mean no one in the party does that much, or that it's a lot for a 2nd level character in general?  B/c a straightforward Swordsage 1/Rogue 1, or even better something like Rogue 1/Ninja 1 can do about that much w/ TWF on a full attack.  Hell, even a Monk probably could, if you put a few feats into enhancing its unarmed damage.  All that requires a full attack, though. 
Yeah, no one does anywhere close to that. Got a rogue/fighter, a fighter, a cleric, a soulknife/psychic warrior, and a ranger in the party. Only the half-giant actually does anything for huge amounts of damage. Everyone else does 1d8+X.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2011, 12:19:58 PM »
Q17 is the moment of alacrity maneuver really useless when you're already #1 in the initiative order, or do i miss something?

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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #50 on: August 13, 2011, 12:24:29 PM »
Q17 is the moment of alacrity maneuver really useless when you're already #1 in the initiative order, or do i miss something?
it's useful if you ready an action to go back up to the top after it moves your initiative order, but essentially yes; it's useless if you are already first.
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They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2011, 01:27:41 PM »
A15 I don't see why not. What are you getting at here? That 4d6 damage at level 1 is overpowered? Then I beg to differ.
No, but the player sure does though. He doesn't want to look like he's overshadowing the other players with his 6d6 once a round, and his 4d6 during the others. No one else does anything close to that at 2nd level.
Do you mean no one in the party does that much, or that it's a lot for a 2nd level character in general?  B/c a straightforward Swordsage 1/Rogue 1, or even better something like Rogue 1/Ninja 1 can do about that much w/ TWF on a full attack.  Hell, even a Monk probably could, if you put a few feats into enhancing its unarmed damage.  All that requires a full attack, though. 
Yeah, no one does anywhere close to that. Got a rogue/fighter, a fighter, a cleric, a soulknife/psychic warrior, and a ranger in the party. Only the half-giant actually does anything for huge amounts of damage. Everyone else does 1d8+X.

A half-giant warblade with punishing stance, Jotunbrud and a Huge Great-axe does 5d6 damage right out of the box, and can do more/attack multiple opponents with strikes. Would probably be better off using a guisarme for the reach though.

The party isn't optimized though, so it might be a bit high, but the rogue could easily match his damage output. Unless he has too many fighter levels.

The trick is decent at the low levels, but as soon as he hits higher levels he isn't that useful.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2011, 01:43:37 PM »
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I thought jotunbrud was human-only?
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but I guess that would only bring it down to 4d6; so it's a moot point.

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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2011, 01:49:28 PM »
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I thought jotunbrud was human-only?
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but I guess that would only bring it down to 4d6; so it's a moot point.

Half-Giant is half human. I think you can take it.

Anyway, a human can do it as well, Jotunbrud + Exotic Weapon prof warmace, gives you a big ass war-mace when you hold it two handed. I'd rather have power attack though, it's better on the high levels.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #54 on: August 13, 2011, 02:29:59 PM »
Q12: What is the general opinion of taking Involuntary Rage and Pain Mastery (both in SS) on a Barbarian?

Don't know about a general opinion, personally I don't think it's such a great idea.  You don't have a whole lot of feats to work with, and you're blowing 3 of them for the ability to stack a basic rage onto whatever other rage you've got going (if you take one big whack and not two moderate whacks that add up to the same or more damage), and the ability to add a (maybe cumulative) +2 Str for every 50 points closer to death you get whether or not it comes in one chunk.

If you don't find the feat-starvation bit problematic, that might look better on somebody who lives to get the crap beat out of them, and can reverse its effects before dropping dead (the feats only say you need to take the damage, not keep it).  Have you considered trying the same combination on a Crusader?
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #55 on: August 13, 2011, 02:38:29 PM »
Q18:  I vaguely remember the existence of a feat or class feature that let a character add Str*2 to their damage with two-handed weapons instead of Str*1.5.  What is it and where can I find it?  If there are multiple ways, the feat version is preferable.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2011, 02:44:28 PM »
Q13
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2011, 03:10:54 PM »
Q18:  I vaguely remember the existence of a feat or class feature that let a character add Str*2 to their damage with two-handed weapons instead of Str*1.5.  What is it and where can I find it?  If there are multiple ways, the feat version is preferable.

Not necessarily for 2H, but Power Lunge (Ghostwalk p.37) lets you do that on a charge. The other one I remember is Uncanny Blow (Exotic Weapon Master [Complete Warrior p.30]'s exotic weapon stunt) but it only works for one-handed exotic weapon wielded in two hands.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2011, 03:29:25 PM »
Hmmm... think Uncanny Blow would get along with Robilar's Gambit better, and dwarves get waraxe proficiency free anyway.  That'll do.
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Re: Simple Q&A 28: Revenge of the Monktopus
« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2011, 06:44:33 PM »
Q14
Can the Spell obtained from Precious Apprentice be cast using spells spent with Versatile Spellcaster
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