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Catfolk in PF
« on: July 30, 2011, 03:18:10 AM »
Catfolk (RotW) gets quite good attribute bonuses and minor skill bonuses, but not much besides that. Would it be a +0 or +1 CR race in PF? It has +1 LA and if I remember correctly it gets +1 CR as a monster.
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Re: Catfolk in PF
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2011, 08:57:56 AM »
Lets see...significance is in +2 more stat and missing a -2 than the usual array, it also has slightly better speed and an insignificant AC/skill bonus. However, it has a complete dearth of racial abilities worth a damn, while PF races tends to have more on that end.
So...it doesn't quite work as a +0, because its stats are above that, but has no significant racials. I'd say strip out +2 off the Dex, put in a -2 to something(Wis?) and throw in paired natural weapon claws with darkvision to make it a +0.
If you were to make it a +1 you'd need actual racial abilities worth a damn, rather than just stats.
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Re: Catfolk in PF
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2011, 10:32:36 AM »
What are your suggestions for +1 CR?
For comparison other +1 CR races/templates:
Advanced
Half-Celestial (5 HD or less)
Ogrekin
Drow noble

Also:
Would an anthropomorphic tiger considered as a good CR 1 or would it be under-/overpowered?
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Re: Catfolk in PF
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2011, 02:37:40 PM »
^^
Pathfinder generally reduces LAs for PC races to 0 where possible, and running with the CR +1 templates as LA +1 templates are a recipe for trouble and only done when theres no other option.

Monsters as PCs
Notice how all those LA races are LA 0 there?
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Re: Catfolk in PF
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2011, 01:38:38 PM »
Anything that originally had an LA +1, were changed to +0, but it was recommended that anything that was not part of the original core races, and had been a +1 LA race before, should be given -500 exp at the start of the game to help balance things out somewhat.
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