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Best Wizard for my party?
« on: July 22, 2011, 10:23:30 PM »
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We are:
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I know it's a no sense party... but now a new friend join us and he wants to be a wizard...
what u think it's the best build for him?

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Re: Best Wizard for my party?
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2011, 10:35:21 PM »
Wizard (conjuration specialist) 20, using the PHB2 alternate class feature to exchange his familiar for Abrupt Jaunt. Prepare spells of the god variety

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Re: Best Wizard for my party?
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2011, 10:38:07 PM »
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I know it's a no sense party... but now a new friend join us and he wants to be a wizard...
what u think it's the best build for him?
One that casts spells.

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Re: Best Wizard for my party?
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2011, 10:50:27 PM »
Red Wizard Diviner Specialist :)
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Re: Best Wizard for my party?
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2011, 11:03:32 PM »
I suggest a grey elf Specialist Wizard Transmuter myself.  Drop Necro and Enchantment

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Re: Best Wizard for my party?
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2011, 11:46:45 PM »
Red Wizard Diviner Specialist :)

Diviner 5/Red Wizard 10/Archmage 5 - take Leadership (for another Diviner 5/Red Wizard 10/Archmage 2) and focus on spells which benefit from your Caster Level 41+ spells.  Use Simulacrum to fill up your circles, and eventually your Simulacra will be able to lead their own great circles, so you'll basically have all the spells all the time.  Then (eventually) use Astral Projection from your private demiplane (which you created with Genesis) and you'll be effectively untouchable.

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Re: Best Wizard for my party?
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2011, 08:08:13 AM »
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I know it's a no sense party... but now a new friend join us and he wants to be a wizard...
what u think it's the best build for him?
One that casts spells.
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Re: Best Wizard for my party?
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2011, 08:23:57 AM »
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I know it's a no sense party... but now a new friend join us and he wants to be a wizard...
what u think it's the best build for him?
One that casts spells.
+1.
...and has a familiar.  Familiar > Abrupt Jaunt.

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Re: Best Wizard for my party?
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2011, 08:41:18 AM »
Specialize in evocation, ban conjuration and transmutation.

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Re: Best Wizard for my party?
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2011, 09:33:09 AM »
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I know it's a no sense party... but now a new friend join us and he wants to be a wizard...
what u think it's the best build for him?
One that casts spells.
+1.
...and has a familiar.  Familiar > Abrupt Jaunt.
Yeah. Familiars are great, especially as scouts very useful.
And you can look up for some synergies (like Grease + Rogue) to increase the effectiveness. A God/Utility Wizard will be what your party still needs.

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Re: Best Wizard for my party?
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2011, 09:38:30 AM »
Do a blaster with no metamagic feats.
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How much is this character allowed to be broken?

Edit- About the familiar used as a scout: you already have a Druid, and the Rogue is probably decent at scouting too. If you go for this, however, the best possible PHB familiar is the raven, as it flies and speak one language. It's a shame that you cannot use Complete Scoundrel, as th skill trick "listen to this" would be useful.

+1 on the God/utility. It can rarely be banned as broken but it actually is the edge that makes you win. Also the Druid have some lacks in some aspects of utility casting and buffing/debuffing.
It can be a little boring to play, thought, as it makes other characters shine instead of shining himself.
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Re: Best Wizard for my party?
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2011, 09:41:03 AM »
well not too much...


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Re: Best Wizard for my party?
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2011, 10:25:21 AM »
Best possible PHB familiar is Imp.

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Re: Best Wizard for my party?
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2011, 10:49:53 AM »
Isn't it an improved familiar? ???

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Re: Best Wizard for my party?
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2011, 11:12:35 AM »
Isn't it an improved familiar? ???
You're going to spend your feat on something else in Core?

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Re: Best Wizard for my party?
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2011, 01:53:46 PM »
I'd say either a dedicated blaster Wizard, though maybe that's impossible to really build in Core, or failing that a buffer/god wizard.  The synergies w/ the rest of the party and the fact that it won't be too overpowered is good. 

You didn't mention a level, though.  And, I may be ignorant ... I haven't played core-only ever. 

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Re: Best Wizard for my party?
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2011, 05:00:46 PM »
Why can't you do both?  The aforementioned Diviner/Red Wizard can play GOD as usual, and can blast with TK or TK+Explosive Runes mail bombs.
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Re: Best Wizard for my party?
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2011, 05:30:26 PM »
CL40+ gives you the oomph to blast.  Also, auto-Maximized and auto-Empowered and auto-Heightened spells, yo!
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Re: Best Wizard for my party?
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2011, 06:06:03 PM »
Why can't you do both?  The aforementioned Diviner/Red Wizard can play GOD as usual, and can blast with TK or TK+Explosive Runes mail bombs.

CL40+ gives you the oomph to blast.  Also, auto-Maximized and auto-Empowered and auto-Heightened spells, yo!

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Re: Best Wizard for my party?
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2011, 08:52:57 PM »