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Re: "Opulance, I has it"; A look into NPC wealth
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2011, 07:09:11 PM »
Sweet.


Well maybe spicy.
Could be nutty ... or earthy.
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Re: "Opulance, I has it"; A look into NPC wealth
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2011, 07:09:54 PM »
And what will happen to the king's regalia, Crown, apple and Rod after 10 generation of accumulating magic enhancement? .

Stolen, eaten by some monster, lost in combat, offered as reward to heroes that then go to another dimension never to be seen again, you name it. You people and you silly thinking that D&D is an harmonized peaceful society.

This is, even in the real world people waste valuable inheritances all the time.

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Re: "Opulance, I has it"; A look into NPC wealth
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2011, 07:17:36 PM »
Why does the Artificer sell the item so cheap?
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Re: "Opulance, I has it"; A look into NPC wealth
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2011, 09:01:54 PM »
Why does the Artificer sell the item so cheap?

Because he can? Certainly he could raise the price but because of his talents in price reduction he is beating any of his competition while creating a connection with the favored elite in a large city.

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Re: "Opulance, I has it"; A look into NPC wealth
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2011, 09:13:37 PM »
Wouldn't a Guidance Of The Avatar ongoing item fall under the "Gauntlets Of True Striking" exemption to the guidelines, where if the spell would do the same thing as an existing bonus guideline you price by the bonus instead of the spell?

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Re: "Opulance, I has it"; A look into NPC wealth
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2011, 09:27:45 PM »
So I re-examined the build and decided to cut out Guidance of the Avatar all together (as it was starting to create too many problems). I'll figure out some sample situations for Reginald later.

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Re: "Opulance, I has it"; A look into NPC wealth
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2011, 11:40:21 PM »
Taxes, tithes and guild dues: they're why being a freelance, godless ruffian is a lucrative career choice.

According to cityscape pg. 147:
Taxes in the range of 10-20% are common in times of peace, up to 50% in times of war.
Tithes are usually set at 10% (after taxes). Depending on the church/society, this can be optional.

Guild dues are left ambiguous, as far as I can tell.
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Re: "Opulance, I has it"; A look into NPC wealth
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2011, 05:01:06 PM »
Heh, more holes in the economy.


Tax Collectors have an incentive to charge the Commoners the higher tax rates,
and the better NPCs a lower rate, for safety reasons.
And it's ambiguous.
And there's always a War somewhere, just a matter of how far away.

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Re: "Opulance, I has it"; A look into NPC wealth
« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2011, 11:35:03 AM »
Urban Adept variant is from Cityscape --- idk anything about it.


DMG pricing on Custom Item of Guidance of the Avatar is: 2*3*1800= 10,800 gp.



What's weird about all this ... (and I'm a good judge of weird, eh?)
is all of these NPC 1s are still supposed to have 900 gp.
But if you go beat them up, they're supposed to have
whatever 1st level treasure, and perhaps randomly.

Maybe the amount of expenses they have includes security of their goodies,
and maintenance of existing relationships.
Such that the amount of "treasure" they have access to at any given time, is only
equal to the amount of treasure a BBEG or PC would get for beating them.

I mean an NPC 1 with a nifty Custom Item, better have that item hidden 
really well all of the time. The town Rogue is interested in borrowing it.
And you know, returning it when properly asked.
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Eh no, that makes sense. I mean do you carry your life savings with you at all times?

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Re: "Opulance, I has it"; A look into NPC wealth
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2011, 03:39:28 PM »
i do
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Re: "Opulance, I has it"; A look into NPC wealth
« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2011, 03:42:32 PM »
i do

Just because you're broke doesn't mean that you're carrying around your life savings ;)

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Re: "Opulance, I has it"; A look into NPC wealth
« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2011, 08:05:05 PM »
Wouldn't a Guidance Of The Avatar ongoing item fall under the "Gauntlets Of True Striking" exemption to the guidelines, where if the spell would do the same thing as an existing bonus guideline you price by the bonus instead of the spell?

hmm ... can't be too sure.

The problem with a True Strike item, has always been the rule: CL = Bonus * 3 ; with that attack bonus.
CL of 60 is out of reach for the casual player. Although 1*60*2000 and heavy C.O. = affordable at high levels.
I had a thread on this back at old T.O. ... probably lost.

Skill Bonus Items don't follow that rule.
Custom Items either follow the guidelines, or the DM can Fiat something else.
Technically an x*y*2000 always on item, is custom.
Wand of Guidance Of The Avatar is not custom.