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Dragons and Arcane Channeling
« on: June 21, 2011, 12:20:34 AM »
I'm certain that the title gives away what I want to do, so let's skip the formalities.


Would this be a better option for a Dragon? Full Attack channeling with that many natural weapons would surely do some damage, turning Dragons from supertanks with buffs into down-right terrifying foes.


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Re: Dragons and Arcane Channeling
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2011, 09:53:13 PM »
That's an interesting idea. I'm not sure it would be all that great, though, as you would be tanking the inherent sorcerer casting to get the needed 13 levels of Duskblade. Although, by that point, with the duskblade casting the dragon would have, it would be interesting.

Actually, I doubt it. If we could get it without dumping the sorcerer casting it would be much better. I just don't think Duskblade has enough channel-able spells for the arcane channeling to be worth it.
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Re: Dragons and Arcane Channeling
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2011, 11:36:10 PM »
That's an interesting idea. I'm not sure it would be all that great, though, as you would be tanking the inherent sorcerer casting to get the needed 13 levels of Duskblade. Although, by that point, with the duskblade casting the dragon would have, it would be interesting.

Actually, I doubt it. If we could get it without dumping the sorcerer casting it would be much better. I just don't think Duskblade has enough channel-able spells for the arcane channeling to be worth it.

I mean like an alternate feature. Drop the fear aura in exchange for a scaling Arcane Channeling.

The main reason I eve brought this up is because I've seen some DMs do some very stupid things with Dragons (like Unbuffed Ancient Red 1v18 when the 1 was trapped underground, and then expected it to win).


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Re: Dragons and Arcane Channeling
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2011, 10:36:44 AM »
Spellsword or something grants it at level 4.  (3/day, losing two caster levels, but it's another option)
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Re: Dragons and Arcane Channeling
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2011, 03:40:39 PM »
What about the feat Arcane Strike from CW? It effects all your natural attacks for 1 round.

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Re: Dragons and Arcane Channeling
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2011, 03:48:00 PM »
Spellsword or something grants it at level 4.  (3/day, losing two caster levels, but it's another option)
What about the feat Arcane Strike from CW? It effects all your natural attacks for 1 round.

Both of you completely missed the point of this thread...


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Re: Dragons and Arcane Channeling
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2011, 04:54:36 PM »
Spellsword or something grants it at level 4.  (3/day, losing two caster levels, but it's another option)
What about the feat Arcane Strike from CW? It effects all your natural attacks for 1 round.

Both of you completely missed the point of this thread...

Tends to happen quite a lot in the D&D Deliberations section, I've noticed.  :(

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Re: Dragons and Arcane Channeling
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2011, 02:17:58 AM »
Would it be a better option?  It would make running a dragon SIMPLER, to be sure.  And the fewer moving parts, the less likely it is that you'd miss something--and I've GMed enough to know that simpler is generally more useful than more flexible in terms of running something.
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Re: Dragons and Arcane Channeling
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2011, 05:34:12 AM »
The idea was to use the duskblade's channeling to spread single target buff spells around the dragon's minions. It doesn't need more damage or accuracy anyway.
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Re: Dragons and Arcane Channeling
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2011, 03:11:45 AM »
Well, if it's in exchange for the fear aura, that definitely sounds like a tasty powerup. Gets downright mean with the right spells, like AC'ed Harm, or Night's Caress.
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Re: Dragons and Arcane Channeling
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2011, 03:33:13 AM »
I dunno, Full attack channelling (which is what I think you are suggesting) seems a lot more powerful than fear aura, perhaps taking a leaf out of DoE and make it something similar to a Sovereign archetype? Dropping the HD and/or loosing access to non-arcane spells (IE loosing access to the cleric list or domain access if the dragon have it)