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Fun Finds 2: (aka Tidbits Repository)
« on: May 13, 2011, 09:07:58 PM »
A deposit for those little bits of cool things you find, but aren't worth their own thread.

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Re: Fun Finds 2: (aka Tidbits Repository)
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2011, 09:16:32 PM »
Maybe this is new, maybe not, but here goes:

So in Monsters of Faerun there is an aquatic humanoid race called the Shalarin (pg. 76).  The PGtF web enhancement / monster update booklet says these guys are +0 LA.  It also gives them racial stat mods of +4 STR & DEX, +0 to everything else.  Wow, not too shabby for a +0 LA race.

But too bad they're aquatic and can't breath on dry land.  Oh wait, why not use the Amphibious template.  -2 DEX for air breathing is a pretty good deal.  So now you have +4 STR & +2 DEX on a +0 LA humanoid.

Throw on Dragonborn and now you've got +4 STR & +2 CON, can breath air or underwater just fine. 

I'll take this guy over a Dragonborn Water Orc any day.  And chances are, if you have a DM that would actually let you use a Dragonborn Water Orc, he'll probably let you use a Dragonborn Shalarin.
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Re: Fun Finds 2: (aka Tidbits Repository)
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2011, 09:24:45 PM »
Maybe this is new, maybe not, but here goes:

So in Monsters of Faerun there is an aquatic humanoid race called the Shalarin (pg. 76).  The PGtF web enhancement / monster update booklet says these guys are +0 LA.  It also gives them racial stat mods of +4 STR & DEX, +0 to everything else.  Wow, not too shabby for a +0 LA race.

But too bad they're aquatic and can't breath on dry land.  Oh wait, why not use the Amphibious template.  -2 DEX for air breathing is a pretty good deal.  So now you have +4 STR & +2 DEX on a +0 LA humanoid.

Throw on Dragonborn and now you've got +4 STR & +2 CON, can breath air or underwater just fine. 

I'll take this guy over a Dragonborn Water Orc any day.  And chances are, if you have a DM that would actually let you use a Dragonborn Water Orc, he'll probably let you use a Dragonborn Shalarin.

Or you can just use Dragonborn, since it removes the whole problem and leaves you +2 Dex up.


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Re: Fun Finds 2: (aka Tidbits Repository)
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2011, 09:28:53 PM »
Dragonborn doesn't make you lose the [Aquatic] subtype though, nor will it grant you air breathing.

Edit:  Actually, I think this might not work.  Amphibious template gives you the amphibious special quality, doesn't it?  So going Dragonborn will make you lose that.  So if you want to be able to breath air, don't go dragonborn.  Still a great +0 LA race though.
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Re: Fun Finds 2: (aka Tidbits Repository)
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2011, 10:27:15 PM »
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Re: Fun Finds 2: (aka Tidbits Repository)
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2011, 11:10:39 PM »
Maybe this is new, maybe not, but here goes:

So in Monsters of Faerun there is an aquatic humanoid race called the Shalarin (pg. 76).  The PGtF web enhancement / monster update booklet says these guys are +0 LA.  It also gives them racial stat mods of +4 STR & DEX, +0 to everything else.  Wow, not too shabby for a +0 LA race.
That update throws LAs onto all sorts of things.

My favorite is the hairy spider.  Minds are for wusses.
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Re: Fun Finds 2: (aka Tidbits Repository)
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2011, 11:40:32 PM »
That update throws LAs onto all sorts of things.

My favorite is the hairy spider.  Minds are for wusses.
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Re: Fun Finds 2: (aka Tidbits Repository)
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2011, 11:50:55 PM »
Maybe this is new, maybe not, but here goes:

So in Monsters of Faerun there is an aquatic humanoid race called the Shalarin (pg. 76).  The PGtF web enhancement / monster update booklet says these guys are +0 LA.  It also gives them racial stat mods of +4 STR & DEX, +0 to everything else.  Wow, not too shabby for a +0 LA race.
That update throws LAs onto all sorts of things.

My favorite is the hairy spider.  Minds are for wusses.

They gave the hairy spider an LA?

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Re: Fun Finds 2: (aka Tidbits Repository)
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2011, 04:35:14 AM »

They gave the hairy spider an LA?
LA+0 and mindless.

The only real way to optimize is take levels in druid, and occasionally cast iconic manifestation to get a mind (and incidentally select all your feats).
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Re: Fun Finds 2: (aka Tidbits Repository)
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2011, 08:21:29 AM »
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Re: Fun Finds 2: (aka Tidbits Repository)
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2011, 08:49:47 AM »
The only real way to optimize is take levels in druid, and occasionally cast iconic manifestation to get a mind (and incidentally select all your feats).

Incarnate Construct Dustform Hairy Spider.

Incarnate Construct specifically states that non-ability scores, such as Intelligence, Constitution, etc, are rolled.

The outcome is a 0 LA race of Humanoid (Augmented Vermin).

This all brought to you by the vague description of Incarnate construct, where it states vaguely human-shaped. That's like, really vague. :P

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Re: Fun Finds 2: (aka Tidbits Repository)
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2011, 02:59:39 PM »
rofl!!!! a race for were-fine swarms!!!!!!!

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Re: Fun Finds 2: (aka Tidbits Repository)
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2011, 03:29:51 PM »
rofl!!!! a race for were-fine swarms!!!!!!!
Are there any Animal Fine swarms? Because entomanothropes explicitly can't become swarms.
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Re: Fun Finds 2: (aka Tidbits Repository)
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2011, 03:35:10 PM »
I only know of the murder of crows from Tome of Magic, which isn't fine, but close enough, and can fly.

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Re: Fun Finds 2: (aka Tidbits Repository)
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2011, 03:58:00 PM »
rofl!!!! a race for were-fine swarms!!!!!!!
Are there any Animal Fine swarms? Because entomanothropes explicitly can't become swarms.

... damn

EDIT: what about adding Necropolitan to the Incarnate Dustform Hairy Spider?
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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2011, 04:09:26 PM »
Bone creature + swarm shifter templates.
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Re: Fun Finds 2: (aka Tidbits Repository)
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2011, 06:39:17 PM »
rofl!!!! a race for were-fine swarms!!!!!!!
Are there any Animal Fine swarms? Because entomanothropes explicitly can't become swarms.

... damn
Bat swarm still works though.


Bone creature + swarm shifter templates.
Don't you need an endoskeleton for that?
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« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2011, 08:41:25 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2011, 10:02:43 PM »
Also going to post this later in the Psionic Tricks section, showing once and for all that metaconcert is up there with greater metamorphosis.  I call it the Arcane Crescendo.

First we need a set of psionic powers to use our pp on.  The Shards of Leadership trick supplies this nicely, letting any character capable of acquiring a psicrystal ultimately snag every power in existence.  That said, we have no pp as of yet, save the 1-20 from either race or feat(s).  Enter mental pinnacle.  We now have an assload, particularly with a high CL, and at ML equal to our CL.  Now remember how we have all those powers?  Manifest metaconcert, and if you don't wish to conduct it, pawn it off on your shiny pet rock.  Congrats, you now have a massive reserve of powers known and power points disassociated with you, but no spells so long as mental pinnacle persists.  Well, dismiss it.  Remember, your power points are now in the metaconcert, so you have none to lose from ditching the spell (0pp-0pp=0pp).  End result?  All the goodness of psionic buffing and action rape on the chassis of a Wizard, without having the dicey mechanics and arguments involved with a Spell to Power Erudite, and better capability to optimize both sides, especially given that your only limitation to manifesting absurdly powerful powers is your CL, and there are a million and one ways to augment that.

Thoughts?

EDIT : Oh, and ensure the metaconcert is capable of using bestow power, as even unaugmented, once you have those 2 pp back from it after dismissing mental pinnacle, you regain ability to achieve psionic focus, allowing the full breadth of action abuse.
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Re: Fun Finds 2: (aka Tidbits Repository)
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2011, 10:56:57 PM »
I only know of the murder of crows from Tome of Magic, which isn't fine, but close enough, and can fly.

There's a sidebar with alternate stats for doves. This might interest you.
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