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Vampire Bard vs Succubus Bard
« on: October 29, 2011, 11:26:58 AM »
I've got two NPCs - a human advanced vampire lord Bard 10 which is CR 15 (according to PF CR system) and a succubus advanced Bard 10 which also is CR 15 (Bard not associated according to PF CR system).
I know that CR systems are crap, but I still like to use them as guidelines.
Here's my problem - I'm not certain if those two are roughly the same CR in practice. Theoretically, yes, but in reality? I have a hunch that the succubus is stronger as a CR 15 creature.
Here are their stats (in case that you wonder why some of the stats are a little different or weird, I'm using my houserules):
Vampire Lord Bard 10
female NE human advanced vampire lord Bard, Level 10, Init +11, HP 164/164, DR 15/magic & silver, 2/-, Speed 30 ft. (50 ft. fly perfect)
AC 33, Touch 20, Flat-footed 25 (+7 Dex, +12 Natural, +3 Misc)
Fort +13, Ref +26, Will +24, Base Attack Bonus 7/2  
Abilities Str 26, Dex 24, Con -, Int 22, Wis 21, Cha 31

Succubus Bard 10
male CE incubus advanced Incubus/Bard, Level 8/10, Init +6, HP 229/229, DR 10/cold iron or good, 1/-, Speed 30 ft. (fly 50 ft. avarage)
AC 28, Touch 19, Flat-footed 21 (+6 Dex, +8 Natural, +3 Misc)
Fort +14, Ref +19, Will +19, Base Attack Bonus 15/10/10  
Abilities Str 20, Dex 23, Con 27, Int 24, Wis 22, Cha 35
Just to be clear: I'm not asking for optimization. I just want to know your opinion of who of those two is stronger/better as a CR 15.
And also if he (one of those two) is an appropriate CR 15 challenge.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2011, 12:01:17 PM by ImperatorK »
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